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Hello all,My problem is my wife is from Moldova and I am English and from England, I was born there and we got married in Northern Cyprus (Girne) last June and I am at the moment in Moldova with my wife Anna and we went to get my wife's documents like passport, driving licence, identity cards etc changed into my surname. On arrival at the relevant Moldovan government office to make these changes we were asked to produce the marriage certificate from Northern Cyprus and the lady inspected the document and then said this marriage certificate was not legal in Moldova because it did not have a official Turkish apostille stamp on it. No one told us at the time of our marriage that my wife would need this apostille stamp fixing to the marriage certificate and I have since contacted the registry office in Girne were we got married and they told me they could not put this Apostille Stamp on there and that it must be done in Ankara Turkey. The one thing I do know now after many many hours on the phone to various government departments in Girne Nothern Cyprus and Lefkosa is that the people there simply cannot help us and do not have the authority to fix this apostile stamp to our marriage certificate and that it can only be done in Turkey apparantly. I have no problems with it in England because England recognises the marriage certificate as legal, but for my wife sadly the Moldovan authorities will not recognise it as legal until it has this official Turkish Apostille stamp attached to it. So until we get this official Turkish apostille stamp put on our marriage certificate my wife will not be able to change her name on any of her documents in to my name and our marriage will not be recognised as legal in Moldova and this is very very upsetting to my wife and also myself. I hope someone on this forum can help us because we have had so much differing advice on how to get this apostile in the past and all have proved to be incorrect, so please any good advice will be most gratefully accepted on how we can procede and obtain this apostille stamp on our wedding certificate and making everything legal and correct.

Many thanks,Dave.

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Wow this sounds complicated. I don't understand what it has to do with Ankara, I though KKTC was viewed as a separate entity. Does the marriage cert not have a stamp at all, or the wrong sort of stamp?

It looks to me like the different offices are passing on the hot potato or fobbing you off. I expect a friendly legal person will be along soon with some advice.

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Wow this sounds complicated. I don't understand what it has to do with Ankara, I though KKTC was viewed as a separate entity. Does the marriage cert not have a stamp at all, or the wrong sort of stamp?

It looks to me like the different offices are passing on the hot potato or fobbing you off. I expect a friendly legal person will be along soon with some advice.

Hi Fil,Yes its certaily complicated and we have been going round in circles for seven months now without any success at all!!

I thinks its beause Northern Cyprus is not signed up to the apostile treaty of countries and therefore cannot attach the apostile stamp and is only really recognised by Turkey and so they are the only country that as the right to attach the apostile to our marriage certificate (I THINK)The marriage certificate does have an official stamp on it, put on at the time of our marrage in Girne registry office Northern Cyprus, but sadly Moldova will not recognise this stamp until it has an official apostile stamp attached to it from Ankara Turkey.

Any help would be fantastic.

Dave.

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Have you tried contacting the Turkish embassy in Moldova?

Turkey Embassy , Moldova

Str. Valeriu Cupcea, nr. 60

Chisinau

Moldova

Phone:

+373-2-509100

+373-2-509110

+373-2-242608

+373-2-245292

Fax:

+373-2-225528

Email:

[email protected]

I also found this site, http://www.visalady.com/apostilles.html which states :- Apostilles can be obtain from two sources; first, the state of origin or second the country where the document is to be used. For further information on your document please contact International Visa Service at 1-800-6627-1112.

hope this helps

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Have you tried contacting the Turkish embassy in Moldova?

Turkey Embassy , Moldova

Str. Valeriu Cupcea, nr. 60

Chisinau

Moldova

Phone:

+373-2-509100

+373-2-509110

+373-2-242608

+373-2-245292

Fax:

+373-2-225528

Email:

[email protected]

I also found this site, http://www.visalady.com/apostilles.html which states :- Apostilles can be obtain from two sources; first, the state of origin or second the country where the document is to be used. For further information on your document please contact International Visa Service at 1-800-6627-1112.

hope this helps

Hi Angi,

Yes we ave tried the Turkish Embassy in Moldova many many times but all they ever say is it is nothing to do with Turkey or Ankara because we did not get married in Turkey and that the Apostile stamp must come from Northern Cyprus, but they cannot give us an Apostile stamp because Northern Cyprus is not signed up to the Apostile treaty, so round and round we go again.

Plus the Moldovan government officials all say the Apostile stamp on our marriage certificate must come from Turkey as Moldova does not recognise Northern Cyprus any way and plus Northern Cyprus cannot give us the Apostile stamp even if they wanted to because they are not signed up to the Apostile Stamp treaty so round and round in circles we go again, it really is never ending.

I am just reading the Apostil link now that you sent me and Moldova will not issue an Apostile Stamp at all because they say it must come from the country of origin and Northern Cyprus the state of origin of the document cannot do this either because they are not signed up to the treaty.

Many thanks Angie and if anything else comes to mind please let me know

Dave

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Hi, I am sorry for my English. But belive me my knowledge about law better than my English. I think It needs to describe " the appostile stamp" . If you need to use a document in Holdova whic was prepared in a foreign country, your country need to know whether this document was formed by authorized body in that Country. So The Moldova Goverment ask a stamp from Moldova Consulate of the foreign country. Second problem is Northern Cyprus is not recognised by any Country ecsept Turkey. So you need any transaction that will be used , relavent with Northern Cyprus only Turkish Autorities can do this. After all, since Moldova has not got an ambassy in Nothern Cyprus you can not obtain the appostile from there. So you have to go to Ankara and apply consulate of Moldova and get the apostile stamp.

Thank you LawyerinIzmir, I will give the Moldovan Consulate a call in Ankara and see if they can help us.

Dave.

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The Turkish consulate in UK or Moldova should do that. Because the consulates have the power to approve the documents if the documents were prepared in Turkiye or Turkiye's goverment offices.

Hi Fil,Yes its certaily complicated and we have been going round in circles for seven months now without any success at all!!

I thinks its beause Northern Cyprus is not signed up to the apostile treaty of countries and therefore cannot attach the apostile stamp and is only really recognised by Turkey and so they are the only country that as the right to attach the apostile to our marriage certificate (I THINK)The marriage certificate does have an official stamp on it, put on at the time of our marrage in Girne registry office Northern Cyprus, but sadly Moldova will not recognise this stamp until it has an official apostile stamp attached to it from Ankara Turkey.

Any help would be fantastic.

Dave.

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Hi all,Well after 12 months now of trying to solve this problem out I still cannot get an Apostil Stamp put on our marriage certificate, I have even got a solicitor in Turkey and the best he can come up with is having the original marriage certificate translated into Turkish and have an Apostil Stamp put on the legalised translated Turkish copy.

But sadly the Moldovan authourities have stated the Apostil stamp must be put on the original marriage certificate not a translated copy of it and the Turkish solicitor has said they cannot put an Apostil stamp on a marriage certificate issued in Girne, Northern Cyprus.

Please can anyone help me out here because I am totally and utterly lost now as to what to do next.

Many thanks Dave

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How about getting married again but in Turkey? Would that be possible I wonder?

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Hi,I just think there must be an easier way than getting married again in Turkey, surely there must be!!!

I have never come up against so much red tape in my life, Moldova Asking Turkey to do something that Turkey cannot do and the one country Northern Cyprus who should put the Apostil Stamp on the marriage certificate cannot do this because they are not signed up to the Apostil Stamp treaty.

Please you guys get your thinking caps on here because we are lost as to what to do :(:( Many thanks

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My thinking cap doesn't seem to be coming up with any new ideas. It's crazy the way countries want all these bits of red tape. As I said I think the only way forward is to get married again in turkey. Maybe someone else has got nother idea?

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Thanks for trying Sunny,Looks like just keeping our fingers crossed and hoping someone on here can come up with an idea for us.

We seem to be going round in circles with all the relevant government bodies, with all their advice differing and all ending up with no Apostil Stamp on our original marriage certificate and costing us a fortune in the process.

Fingers crossed anyway for some help and advice.

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I really feel for you and I'm sorry I cant help with your situation....

But has for getting married again here in Turkey ........ would you actually be able to do that........ are you not already married...... wouldn't that be bigamy (although your marrying the same woman) if you are allowed to marry in Turkey........ then that clearly says your marriage is not legal at all........

Honestly if thats the case.... and you can marry in Turkey... I think that would be the easiest option and quickest... its a means to an end....

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Hi Debbie,To be honest getting married again in Turkey is really not an option for us, we only got married last year in Northern Cyprus and I think it would be like an insult to that wedding ceremony.

Our original marriage certificate though needs to have an Apostil Stamp fixed to it before Moldova will recognise our marriage as being legal and no one seems to be able to do this for us.

Its like banging your head against a brick wall, it really is!!

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Whiterose...... don't think of it like that 'an insult to our wedding' ....... its paperwork thats all... means to an end...

When I married the first time in UK.... my Husband had been married before but I wanted to marry in Church.... in UK they don't (or didn't) allow divorc

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Sorry Debbie,Getting married again is just not an option.

Is there anyone that can suggest any more ideas on this subject please???

Hi :P I got married in KKTC too - few days ago and I didnt need any apostille! The problem in KKTC is that no matter to which office u will go everyone will tell you 10 different versions. Thats why my husband called family court to know what to do with my documents (Im originally from Poland). court in Famagusta said I do not need any apostille, just my birth certificate and certificate that Im allowed to get married abroad have to be translated into Turkish and aprooved by Turkish embassy in my country and Turkish consulate in Nicosia. We did all that, although wasnt so fast. Also my husband has few problems too with his documents even though he is citizen of KKTC and Turkey (he has double citizenship). Non of us needed apostille on any of those documents. Now through Turkish consulate in Nicosia we are registering our marriage in Turkey.

I read your topic and maybe the problem is that Moldova is not in EU?

Although while we were making our documents nobody asked me if Poland is in EU or not, and nobody asked anything or told which would be connected with EU...

I dont understand why you both have these problems... :) Maybe try to call Turkish embassy in Moldova and they will help? Turkish embassy in Poland didnt have any problems to approve my documents even though we told them we are getting married in KKTC. My husband was there with me in Poland and had talked with Consul Assistant personally.

Also before taking papers from Poland I asked how to register our marriage in Poland and I asked about apostille does my documents (marriage certificate) need to have this stamp and approval by polish consul in Ankara or Istanbul (there are polish embassies), lady in marriage office said that apostille is not required anymore, and also i do not need any approval from polish embassy in Turkey because Poland and Turkey signed some documents about it and through these such extras are not needed anymore. Perhaps Moldova and Turkey didnt sign some law papers and thats why you need this stamp and ur problems has started. Pity you both didn't check everything before getting married in KKTC.

I must admit me and my husband were preparing/checking/googleing few months before we decided to marry here. If it had been impossible to marry in KKTC we would got married in Poland.

You wrote:"On arrival at the relevant Moldovan government office to make these changes we were asked to produce the marriage certificate from Northern Cyprus and the lady inspected the document and then said this marriage certificate was not legal in Moldova because it did not have a official Turkish apostille stamp on it."How about going or at least calling Turkish consulate in Nicosia and tell what problem you have? Also did u try to contact Moldova embassy in Turkey? Maybe if u "get married" in front of Moldova Consul or Ambassador will solve all your troubles? How about calling Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Nicosia? they should give you apostille, at least in Poland the only place u can get apostille is this ministry.

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