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Well after a couple of months of a leaking inlet pipe to my solar water heating panels i decided it needed fixing.The system was only installed 2 years ago and had a leak before this one that i managed to sort out myself.As it was still under guarantee, i thought why not, i'll get the installers out to fix it - so i rang my turkish mate who lives just round the corner from them and told him i needed them to come out and sort it out for me.He told me he was not at home and was in his parents village but would ring them and let me know soon as he could.About an hour later he pops up with his mate from the village, plumbers pipe wrench in hand????? He said oh i rang them but its only the panels covered by the guarantee not the inlet pipe??? Do what!!! i said! so if i bought a TV the maker is not responsible for the moulded plug it had on it????.After all they had installed the lot including the new pipes from the mains 8meters below so i was a bit miffed with a reply like that.Anyway all was not lost as his mate just happened to have a spare part in the car, i had to lend him some ptfe tape as he had left his behind. Only took about 10 mins to fix it - now no drips at all - just what am i going to water the plants with on the roof terrace now??Well never got it done under warranty but in the end but.....- call out - parts and labor = 15tl !!! lol can't grumble at that really - anyone hazzard a guess as to how much in UK for a repair like that??Scream

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to add to this general thread....i wondered does anyone have any advice about mending old traditional style roofs in turkey (maybe better to knock em down n start again if not under presevation order) to single story house or any quotes for say 100sqm single story property for a new roof. doesnt have to become an extra room but thats a thought.does anyone have any clue as to style here in turkey. the web sites dont say prices and im a girl n it all confuses me.we live in a rainy area outside of summer and it would need to withstand heavy rain and bad storms (of course).....and do they insulate here like uk? or would it make our houses like a sauna in summer?what kind of time period does it take...(how longs a piece of string huh?)any advice or websites or recomendations pls let us know. thanks. :welcome:

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I'm not a roofing expert but I'd say whether it could be repaired or needed a complete new roof would depend on the condition of the timbers.Our roof has insulation which helps to keep it warmer in winter and cooler in summer. We have alcipan (I think that's the name) ,plaster board in the UK ,fibreglass insulation, a layer of planks then zifle(?) kagit- a black tar like waterproof layer sold in rolls and finally tiles.

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thanks sunny....i think we need to inspect existing wood closer with one...guess a poke n see what falls off test will suffice :welcome: the other house needs a roof...doesnt have one and damp may have set in....how can one tell i will find out......

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Well we did the roof on my wife's house ourselves (the one in the for sale forum).Took all the tiles off,repaired the chimneys,covered the ceiling with insulating material (Izocam, glass fibre wool),screwed Oriented Strand Board (OSB) to the roof beams,covered it with waterproof roofing membrane (ziflit kagit) and put the tiles back on.Hell of a job but we did it. Costs were:OSB 25 lira per 8x4 (feet) sheet. Used about 20 sheets I thinkZiftli Kagit 60 lira per roll, I think we used 6 rolls.Izocam. Can't remember the price but would have been around 30 lira per roll I think.I'm really not sure about the quantity and costs of the materials now but it's easy to measure up and work that out.Note I screwed the board to the beams because I don't like knocking old wood about, bits tend to fall off and nails tend to pull out too easily. A screw keeps it tight (if you'll pardon the expression).You don't need a flame thrower to seal the ziftli kagit, just give it a 6 inch overlap and that'll be fine.The whole job was going to take about 3 weeks but in the end took about 3 months! But we weren't working very hard and not every day either.Degree of skill needed? In my opinion intermediate level of DIY.Specialist tools? An electric screwdriver unless you've got forearms like Swarzenegger. Angle grinder for cutting tiles.Fitness and endurance? Matterhorn level of climbing experience and endurance would be very helpful.Would I do it again? Yes but I'd be paid next time.Scream, that would be

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hi thanks for turkish words n info ....it sounds scary....no way could we do it ourselves but im sure we can hire a dodgy man who can :welcome: one daythis is the prob too with buying on major budget....new stuff is out of our league and whats there is dated n needs a makeover or to put it bluntly a roof!!...also we ask for our family member who last yr the damp was really getting bad so its roof consideration time or house n dwellers suffer. how the hell can a house retain heat with no roof?....also many we have viewed have the wires sticking out (they were gonna build another level but ran out of money is my guess)....how can u add a roof with those rusty buggers all over?.....the good thing about many houses that are not new is they have a wee patch of land that goes with them on the planning and thats ideal...even if on a budget...we had a quote for about 4000 tl on line but not face to face (that includes labour)....havent a clue if thats good?seems much less that i imagined....

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hi thanks for turkish words n info ....it sounds scary....no way could we do it ourselves but im sure we can hire a dodgy man who can :drunk[1]: one daythis is the prob too with buying on major budget....new stuff is out of our league and whats there is dated n needs a makeover or to put it bluntly a roof!!...also we ask for our family member who last yr the damp was really getting bad so its roof consideration time or house n dwellers suffer. how the hell can a house retain heat with no roof?....also many we have viewed have the wires sticking out (they were gonna build another level but ran out of money is my guess)....how can u add a roof with those rusty buggers all over?.....the good thing about many houses that are not new is they have a wee patch of land that goes with them on the planning and thats ideal...even if on a budget...we had a quote for about 4000 tl on line but not face to face (that includes labour)....havent a clue if thats good?seems much less that i imagined....

Thats not a bad quote actually, first quote i had for similar was 12000 GBP The builder wanted me to pay his rent for 2 years so he never got the job i did it myself. The tiles cost roughly 1000tl all in then i had an I=bar metal bar fitted and then wooden roof spars then chipboard type boards then the izo liner stuff 20tl a roll here. I actually raised the roof by 1m and built the ends straight up and had them rendered all in it cost me 5000tl for the turkish work force to do the i bar, wood and lay the tiles. Then i paid another 500tl to have guttering and metal edging put on too.But we are now 100% waterproof after living under canvas for 2 winters!.

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thanks all interesting info here.....as we went to look at places more locally the extent of properties available but with no roof was not a surprise but what also came to mind was a wall price. many locals here do not make boundaries clear and as a brit i guess im used to them and its also made me think its something useful to look into.....many plot of land we have seen are so oddly shaped and frankly surrounded by other villagers animals who have taken over empty land for themselves....one house unfinished in town was full of sheep and poo and they wanted 150.000 tl and the swimming pool - all totally unfinished was full of rubbish....we later heard the owners were in germany! how do people expect to sell properties if they dont consider how it looks? anyway...more of 'to think about ' on my list now not less ....... :D and anyway our budget is pitence compaired to most older retired folk ..the 150.000 tl one was just out of curiosity.....but having a turkish husband means he does all the chit chat n i just smile when i see a rotten roof and bugs in the kitchen..........or a sheep....more likely goat id have thought actually http://www.turkeycentral.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mellow.gif

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