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Hello everyone,

Please I need some help regarding my husband health insurance, on the 2. July he will be 65 years old, and I read that people over 65 years old, does not need a health insurance for RP.

Does he need an insurance if he apply for RP during May 2019?

Or he should wait til the 2.July, then he apply for RP?

If he does not need health insurance for RP, what he will write in insurance-fields on RP-application?

Another issue which I need help too, I read that Danish Nationality are exempted from RP fee, is that true?

I am Swedish.  Am I also exempted from RP fee too?

I appreciate your answer.

 

 

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Does he need an insurance if he apply for RP during May 2019?

Yes, because he will not yet be 65 years old.

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Or he should wait til the 2.July, then he apply for RP?

That would be up to him, but once he is over 65, health insurance is not required.

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If he does not need health insurance for RP, what he will write in insurance-fields on RP-application?

I think, but I am not sure, that once he enters his birth date, the option to enter the insurance may be either optional, or not there at all. I haven't heard of anyone over 65 who has had any problems with the online system, so I assume it is a straightforward thing.

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I read that Danish Nationality are exempted from RP fee, is that true?

Yes, it is true. It says so here:

Residence Permit Fee Amounts (in Turkish)

At the bottom of that page, it says this:

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Çek Cumhuriyeti, Danimarka, İrlanda, Kosova, Nepal, Sri Lanka, Suriye ve Türkmenistan 2011 yılından itibaren karşılıklılık ilkesi çerçevesinde ikamet izni harcından muaf tutulmuştur.

It says that citizens of the Czech Republic, Denmark, Ireland, Kosovo, Nepal, Sri Lanka, Syria and Türkmenistan are exempt from residence permit fees according to a reciprocal agreement.

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I am Swedish.  Am I also exempted from RP fee too?

Unfortunately, no. You will have to pay. According to the chart on the web page I linked to, the fee will be $25 USD for the first month, and 5 USD for additional months. So for one year it would be the Turkish Lira equivalent of $80 USD. There is also a card printing fee, which is 89 TL for 2019.

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Hi Ken

Thank you for a good and professional service, I appreciate it very much.

Another question I have, now my husband decide to apply for RP on the 1. July (Monday), he ill be 65 years old.

We will be in Istanbul on the 8th. May, and back home on the 8th July for about 4 weeks.

We will prepare all the required docs (as we know) before the first of July.

My concern is about:

Do you think 6-7 days enough to complete RP applying?

Or maybe better to apply for RP after we come back to Turkey at the beginning of August (then we will be free to stay in Turkey as long as it takes)?

Does the counting back of the 90 days begin from the 8th. of July? 

TIA

FADA

  

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Do you think 6-7 days enough to complete RP applying?

The application is done online, and you can do it, theoretically, an an hour or two, provided you have all of your documents ready. For example, you will need your photos before you apply online because you will have to upload a scanned digital copy of one of them. You will also need your health insurance policy, because you will need the policy number, dates, company name, etc. Also your visa information and your passport info.

Have a look here for more info on residence permits.

Turkey Residence Permits

Of course if you have any questions about the process you can ask them here in this topic.

You can get your health insurance just by walking into an insurance company office and telling them you need a health insurance policy for a residence permit. It will take less than an hour, probably. Same with the photos, just go to a photo shop and tell them you need four biometric photos for your residence permit, they can take them on the spot.

Once you complete the application process, you'll be given a link to download your completed application for you to sign and take with you for your appointment.

Because you are in Istanbul, you won't be given (or be allowed to choose) an appointment date or time. This is given to you later, sent by e-mail or SMS message. It cannot be changed, you have to be at your appointment with your complete application package on that day and at that time, no matter what.

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Or maybe better to apply for RP after we come back to Turkey at the beginning of August (then we will be free to stay in Turkey as long as it takes)?

That's up to you, of course, but it seems to me it would be easier to just apply when you really are here to stay. What are you thinking would be the advantage of applying earlier?

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Does the counting back of the 90 days begin from the 8th. of July? 

Are you referring to the number of days in Turkey allowed on your visa? Have a look at this guide. It explains the 90-in-180 days rule and how to calculate the number of days you are allowed to stay in Turkey.

The 90-in-180 days rule for Turkey Visas

I hope that helps... let me know if any of that isn't clear. :)

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Thanks again ken, 

Reason to apply early, because in August we will have only 4 days left from our 90 days stay in Turkey and if the applying e-system does not work then we will have a problem for applying.

I read your article also before, but still I am confuse from when I should calculate back.

If I calculate back from 8 May (arrival day) then we have no right even to stay in Turkey til the 8th. of July (leaving day), because we had 2 trips before, one in Dec. 2018 (27.11.2018 til 18.12.2018, means 22 days) and the other in March 2019 (08.03.2019 til 01.04.2019, means 25 days), but if we calculate back from the 8 July (departure day) then we will still have 4 days left from our 90 days, because we do not have to calculate back the trip in 2018.

 

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You should not have a problem with the system, except for being confused by it... you can always call the helpline at 157 and ask them for help. Don't worry too much about the online application system. It usually works just fine. The only time you hear about it is when it doesn't.

Once you have your approved, printed application, which you can download from the system after completing the application, you don't have to worry about how many days you have left according to your visa. You will be legally in Turkey with your application until the day of your appointment. Once you complete your appointment, you will get a temporary residence permit, until your residence permit card comes in the mail.

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If I calculate back from 8 May (arrival day) then we have no right even to stay in Turkey til the 8th. of July (leaving day), because we had 2 trips before, one in Dec. 2018 (27.11.2018 til 18.12.2018, means 22 days) and the other in March 2019 (08.03.2019 til 01.04.2019, means 25 days)

In general, this is true. That is, if on the 8th of may when you count back, your total days in Turkey, during the previous 180 days, amount to 90 or more.

However...

You can get a şartlı giriş (conditional entry) form when you arrive, from the border officials, on which you will declare that you will apply for a residence permit within ten days. By completing and signing that form, you can enter Turkey even if you have reached the maximum 90 days on your visa. But as the form says, you MUST apply for your residence permit within 10 days after entering Turkey.

And by the way, if your husband has to get health insurance, and then becomes 65 years old, after getting his residence permit, he can then go back and cancel the insurance and get a refund for the unused portion.

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Hi Ken,

You are absolutely right regarding the online applying system for RP.

I submitted an application successfully two days ago ( 16 May 2019 ) without a major difficulties, it was some but I could come over by changing to Turkish language, then again back to English.

Now I am waiting to have the details to my appointment in Istanbul ( Kadikoy ) which hopefully will be soon. I prepared all the documents as per your advice,

I will keep you updated to have an idea about the actual proceeding time in Istanbul.

Have a nice weekend

Fada 

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Great! I'm happy to hear everything went smoothly. It is always nice to hear about a positive experience.

I hope you will keep us updated. It always helps to hear about the process from somebody who is actually going through it or who has recently gone through it. If something new is going on we can pass that information on. And if nothing new is going on, it gives us some reassurance that the information we're providing is accurate.

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Hi Ken

Huraaa , today I got the date for my appointment in Kadiykoy DGGM-Istanbul, which it will be on the 1th. of June 2019.

As you know I submitted my application on the 16th. of May 2019, so it seems to be less then one month is waiting time for the appointment in Istanbul.

I am ready with all my docs and applied for 2 years as I own my place and have private insurance for 2 years and have enough money in my account to support my self for the next 2 years also I have more then 60 days validity in my passport over the period which I asked for, so I am really excited to see what will be.

have a nice day

Fada

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Great to hear that! That is a much shorter time than I expected, all the better for you. I hope you get the two years... it sounds like you have everything you need to get one. good luck! :)

 

 

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Hi Ken

Thank you for your kind wishes,

Just come to my mind that I have the original title deed (Tapu) and a copy of it, I am not sure if the copy need legalization or just to show them the original and the copy? because I am a little confuse, when I read what is written in DMMG web site, here what is written

 

3.2. Foreigners who owned real estate in Turkey 

Official, e-signed/signed and stamped/sealed document which shows that the house belongs to the foreigner (title deed) 

So I am not sure if they mean the original doc. or the copy to be signed and stamped?

 

Thanks in advance

Fada

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Hello Fada

They mean that the tapu needs to be signed, stamped and and a document called a "tapu kaydı" given to you. All this is to prove that the tapu is really in your name. They might just stamp it with a new date or they might issue a new tapu. I just did this with my tapu about six weeks ago, just go to your tapu office and they'll do it, mine took about an hour and cost me 11 lira and I was given a new tapu too.

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I have been sorting out my residence permit, all forms filled in online and sent. I have been given an interview date in a months time.

Because my wife is Turkish and past retirement age it appears that I do not need any additional health insurance and will automatically be covered by her insurance.

My main problem now is that the completion of our house sale in England is taking a lot longer than expected. Our buyer is ready and waiting to move but their buyers solicitor keeps coming up with questions, that has been going on for the past six weeks.  Once the sale is completed we can start looking for somewhere to buy in Turkey.

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Why would that be a problem? You have a residence now, so it would just be a matter of applying with your current residence, then updating your residence address when you buy a new place and move it. Or am I missing something?

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No problem with the residence permit.

It is just annoying that the house sale in England is taking so long to complete, when it should have gone through weeks ago.

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Ah okay. As Bill Clinton would say, "I feel your pain!" I hope everything gets done soon. Worst case scenario, just use your current address for your residence, and change it when you get your new place.

There is an update to this. Apparently now you can just take your new tapu (title deed) or rental contract to the Göç İdaresi Genel Müdürlüğü (Directorate General of Migration Management, or DGMM) without an appointment, and update your residence with them. And the DGMM will take care of the entry into the central address system. No need to go to the Nüfus ve Vatandaşlık İşleri Genel Müdürlüğü (General Directorate of Population and Citizenship, or Nüfus) first.

Of course all of this will be easier since you have a Turkish wife. I have heard that everything is easier if you have a Turkish wife. :)

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Hello Cukurbagli

Thanks for you clarification regarding Tapu Kydi.

I wen today to Tapu office in Istanbul and asked them to provide me with a Tapu Kaydi and

I took my original tapu and my passport with me.

They printed an A4 sheet (Stamped and signed) with title:  TASINMAZA AiT TAPU KAYDI

It took me only 5 minutes and cost me nothing.

I am wondering if it is the same doc. you advised me to have, or I should ask about another doc.?

Fada

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