Djawhar Kalkan

Dual citizenship military info.

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Hello, I am 25 years old. My Turkish is zero. I have a dual citizenship I live in Saudi Arabia as a Chadian citizen, and my sponsor is my father. My father took me to the Turkish consulate, they said I am not qualified to apply because I am not out of my father iqama (resident ship), and also I heard I cannot apply unless I live in Saudi Arabia as a Turkish citizen not Chadian also I plan to come to Turkey to apply and study, but I am afraid I am going to have a problem with military. Please can someone help me with this? Thank you in advance.

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Hello Djawhar,  welcome to the forum.  I cannot fully understand your situation. 

You say you are are living in Saudi Arabia as a Chadian citizen.   Are you a citizen of Saudi Arabia?  Why must you be out of your father's residenceship before living as a Turkish citizen?  Did the Consulate confirm that you are actually a Turkish citizen?

It seems to me that if you are living as a Chadian citizen, you could study in Turkey as a Chadian, then no problem with Turkish military (???).  This answer is just based on the information you have provided.  So if you could give more information, things might make more sense to us.  Maybe another member might know more about this (I hope).  :)

 

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I have a dual citizenship 

Chadian and Turkish nationality

I live in Saudi Arabia as Chadian not Turkish because I got my Turkish citizenship 5 years ago only by application and yeah the embassy recognize me as a Turkish but not the Saudi Arabia government. I am born and raised here in Saudi Arabia and registered as Chadian. 

Iqama is a work permit here is more info about it.

https://www.quora.com/What-is-Iqama-of-Saudi-Arabia

I live in Saudi Arabia as a student not allowed to work plus I am under my father iqama  (work permit); to apply for military service I need to have my own work permit, which means I need to be dependent from my father and not a student, based on that I can't apply for military service.

I want to go to Turkey and study there but my family refused due to military, believing that I am going to be taken to military as soon as I land to any Turkish airport.

So I want to know if I go to Turkey now am I going to be taken from the airport?

Would Turkish military take me even though my Turkish language is Zero?

If I enter Turkey as a Chadian would they stop me ?

If I enter Turkey as a Chadian and apply for a university as Turkish am I going to have problem with the government?

 

To study in Turkey as Turkish is way beneficial for me than Chadian due to our financial situation

Thanks in advance!

 

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Seems very complicated.  I will go & present your questions to the Turkish military here (they have a small office in our town).  Just give me a couple of weeks.  Don't worry, I won't give your name, it will just be a general enquiry...... :)

 

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Hi Djawar,

Today I visited the military branch in our town & explained your circumstances.  They did find it somewhat complex & asked for more information.  In particular they wanted to know....... currently, are you working ?  Or are you studying ?  Also, did you get Turkish nationality from your mother or your father?  (I didn't understand why they need this).  They did say no, you will NOT be dragged from the airport to do your military service because you can apply for extensions every year until you finish your studies.

They said, if you agree to provide your full name & TC Kimlik number, they can check it & give a full explanation to your enquiries.  So now it is up to you.  If you want to proceed further please PM me..... :)

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Hello Dear Meral,

First of all, I want to thank you for everything you have done I really appreciate it, about the questions above, I am not working because I am registered as a student and I am not studying because they stopped me from studying, since I am a foreigner I am not allowed  to  study  in any of the government universities, they wanted me to pay a big amount of money that why I plan to move to Turkey and study.

I got my Turkish Nationality from my father in 2012 I think by application.

I got my Chadian Nationality from my mom by birth.

About my TC & Kimlik number, I don't think it's a good idea, the reason I am saying that is they might see that I should be going too military as soon as possible while I want to finish my education first it's a priority for me. I am really thankful for everything you have done, my sincere gratitude.

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Djawhar, 

Thank you for your kind reply.   And I'm sorry that you are stuck between a rock & a hard place, ie. not being able to either work or study.

There may be another way for you.  Foreign students without a working knowledge of Turkish can apply to Turkish universities via a special entry exam known as YÖS (Yabancı Öğrenci Sınavı) .   It is in English, and also available to dual citizens like you, BUT first you must get out of Turkish citizenship (temporarily until studies finished). 

My daughter did this 11 years ago, she got out of Turkish citizenship, then claimed it back later.  While out of citizenship you will get a Mavi Kart , which  recognizes you as a Turkish non-citizen, with all the usual rights of citizens except you cannot work, vote in elections or serve in the army!  Here is a link (in Turkish, but your father can explain it)  http://www.metropolkurslari.com/yos-ve-yurtdisindan-ogrenci-kabulu-ile-ilgili-merak-edilenler/  The exams are held in many of the larger universities.  Sorry I couldn't find this information in English (it did used to be before).

METU is a government university in Ankara, where the language of tuition is in English.  According to this link  http://oidb.metu.edu.tr/en/tuition-fee-payments , under the above scenario you should be exempt from tuition fees as a Turkish citizen with a Mavi Kart (blue card).

Even if you say your Turkish is zero, I must say that your English is absolutely impeccable!  Good luck ! :)

 

 

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