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Dear Ken,

Should the person who wants to stay with another one (here my wife with me)provide anything other than the passport to the host? Also, should he/she pay anything to the host or to the notary office?

Why they should go to the translator if the person who rents the house know Turkish?!

Finally, about the documents I read in the article you provided, here the person who wants to stay in friend's house should give taahhutname, insurance card, passport, photo, and bank statement to the GOC dairesi? Could she/he provide bank statement from her/his country in English which is notarized?

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I see you have already read this guide:

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Should the person who wants to stay with another one (here my wife with me)provide anything other than the passport to the host?

Since in your case the person staying with you is your wife, she doesn't have to provide anything to you. But you will need to go to a noter and take out a taahhutname (an undertaking) so that you will be responsible for any debts she incurs and you will make sure she doesn't stay in Turkey illegally at any point.

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Also, should he/she pay anything to the host or to the notary office?

She will not be required to pay anything to the host (you). There will be a fee for any services she gets from the noter (like the taahhutname).

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Why they should go to the translator if the person who rents the house know Turkish?!

Good point. I changed the article to reflect that a translator will read the taahhutname out loud to the parties involved if they don't speak Turkish, to make sure they understand what they are signing.

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Finally, about the documents I read in the article you provided, here the person who wants to stay in friend's house should give taahhutname, insurance card, passport, photo, and bank statement to the GOC dairesi?

Correct. The insurance information, passport information, one digital copy of the photo, and a declaration of sufficient financial support are provided during the online application process (the financial declaration is basically like checking a box in a form). Then, when you go to your appointment, you will provide them with the hard copies. If it is a renewal, you will mail them in.

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Could she/he provide bank statement from her/his country in English which is notarized?

Yes.

Now this can vary depending on the person and the circumstances. I've heard of cases where the foreigner just "clicked the box" during the online application saying they had enough money to support themselves. And later, during their appointment, they weren't asked for any documentation proving it.

However, you must be prepared to prove that you can support yourself if asked. So you should have any financial documentation you can get from your bank showing you have enough to live on in case you are asked. In my case, they just asked me to go home and print off the last three months of my bank statements. They didn't ask me to have anything translated or notarized. But that all depends on what the immigration official decides to ask for. Technically, they can ask for a stamped and signed letter from your bank, translated and notarized in Turkey. If they insist on that, they will give you time to get such documents and bring them back to the DGMM. So don't worry.

The best and easiest way, of course, is to have money in a Turkish bank account. That is easy for them to see, and verify. How much you should have in the bank used to be a standard of $500 USD per month, but not any more--it can be significantly less now.

The main thing to remember is that if the person visiting has enough money to live on, this can be reasonably proven, by providing information about the lifestyle and expenses of the person, as well as documentation about how much money the person has. If you can reasonably show that the person can live in Turkey for the duration of their residence permit without having to work illegally, you will be okay.

Now in your case, since the person involved is your wife, and you will have income you will be providing to her, they may not even ask for any additional evidence for her since you already have income. If they decide that is enough for both of you to live on, then they won't need any additional documentation. But be ready anyway, in case they do want more documentation.

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3 hours ago, Ken Grubb said:

She will not be required to pay anything to the host (you). There will be a fee for any services she gets from the noter (like the taahhutname).

Ken,

First of all, I cannot thank you much more than giving you thanks symbol!

Just this part, this was misunderstanding. When I said host, I meant the person who gives me the rental house. The owner of  the house. I know that my wife do not have to pay me money:D. So we have to pay for the noter. So here, the owner of the house has nothing to do with all of these things. This is up to me and my wife. We should go to the noter. Would you please let me know or you have any info about the costs?

I am sorry to ask this questions (about cost)!

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So here, the owner of the house has nothing to do with all of these things. This is up to me and my wife.

That's correct. Once you've rented the apartment, it's yours for the duration of the contract.

I don't know about the cost of a taahhutname, though. I'm assuming it will be somewhere around 100-150 TL.

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I understand that the GOC does not sensitive about 500$/month so much, but how about a student? Is there any specific rule? I have had funding before therefore they did not really care but this time I just have tuition waiver and I am married

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I understand that the GOC does not sensitive about 500$/month so much, but how about a student? Is there any specific rule? I have had funding before therefore they did not really care but this time I just have tuition waiver and I am married

There is no specific rule. But if you're coming on a student visa, don't worry about it. The government of Turkey is not going to give you a student visa and then kick you out as soon as you get here over something like that.

Do you have enough money or income to live on while you are in Turkey? If the answer is yes, then you're fine. Just explain your circumstances, whatever they are, to the immigration official at your appointment.

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Ken,

We decided to stay in Turkey, me as a student and my wife as a fiancee (like tourist residence permit). Just a question. After we go to the noter, issuing taahutname, we can make an appointment online for GOC. I mean she can. Could we go to the GOC in a same time? I mean I take a time and she also come with me. Do they process our application at the same time (with just my appointment time)?

So, in this way, I stay in Turkey as a student resident permit and my wife as a tourist resident permit for 2 years, right?

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Your applications will be completely separate. I don't know of any rule which requires an applicant who is staying with a friend, for example, to also bring the friend who is actually renting the residence or who owns it, as long as the applicant has the taahutname. However in your case, since you will be a student, and not a long-time resident of Turkey, I think it might be a good idea for you to go with her, just in case.

And yes, you would have a student residence permit and she would have a short-term residence permit.

There is no "tourist residence permit," actually. Tourism is just one of the options people can use to get a short-term residence permit, and this is also used for people who are renting their residence instead of owning it.

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Thnaks

Just final question. In your website you wrote "Your host will  need to create a taahhutname (literally, "an undertaking"), at a noter (notary) office. The taahhutname will be a guarantee, by your host, to be responsible for any debts, fees or fines you incur while staying with them, and ensure you leave Turkey before your residence permit expires. If your host is married, his or her spouse will also have to sign the taahhutname"

When we go to issue the taahhutname, is the original passport enough for the application or we should translate it? Also, does she need tax ID number, or we could get it after?

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In this case, you will be the host for your wife. That is, you will have a residence where your wife will stay. And you will make a legal guarantee (taahutname) saying that you will be responsible for making sure your wife complies with the laws (as you mentioned in your previous post).

You make this statement before a noter (notary). The noter will have you sign this guarantee. Then the noter will stamp and sign it. Then your wife will take the taahutname to the DGMM and give it to an immigration specialist at her appointment.

For the taahutname itself (I am not talking about your actual residence permit application), the only person you will need to show your passport to is the noter. I have never heard of any noter which requires a translation of a passport, if it is in English. However, since it will be from Azerbaijan, it is possible. I doubt it though.

If, by some very small chance, the noter wants it translated (I really don't think they will ask for this), there will probably be a translation office close by.

I don't think she will need a tax number. Most foreigners get one so they can open a bank account. But if she doesn't need a bank account, she shouldn't need a tax number. At the appointment she will need to pay the fees, but I don't think they require a tax number for that.

If by some chance they do need one, they will tell you where to get it, and let you come back on the same day or soon after.

And if there is any problem with the application, don't worry. They'll just tell you what they need and give you time to go and get it and bring it back.

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Harikasin Ken:)

Yep, I read somewhere. It seems illogical. The passport is in English and there will be no problem I think.

I might have funding as a PhD student there and it will be enough for two persons. I stated tax number, since I thought that maybe the GOC dairesi requires the 6000 $. However, I think they do not push my fiancee to show that amount in the bank since I am the one who is sponsor and I get the financial research assistant from the university. I think you wrote in TURKEYCENTRAL that they do not enforce to have this, right? Oh, I see your post now and I think you can ignore this question:)

 

Two years ago, even though I was a fully funded student, they do not ask me about the money I have. Actually, that time I even do not have a bank account. I mean, I even did not know anything about tax number.

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If your passport is in English, it should be no problem at the noter office.

There is a lasting misconception about what is required to prove one has enough money to live on. People are repeating old information which is now obsolete.

There used to be a rule which required foreigners to have the equivalent of $500 USD in a Turkish bank account. This requirement was rescinded like two years ago. It is not because they don't enforce the rule. It is because the rule no longer exists.

The information I am giving you is based on an interview I did personally with an immigration specialist at the Antalya DGMM. I asked her specifically about the standard they were using to determine if a person had enough money to live as a foreigner in Turkey. And she gave me an example.

There was a lady who wanted a residence permit, but she had little money. Nowhere near the "$500 per month" as required by the old rule. The lady explained to the immigration specialist that she never went out, never went to bars or expensive places, cooked at home, and lived a simple life. She easily convinced the immigration specialist (the same one I was interviewing) that she had enough to live on. So the lady got her residence permit.

The main reason they make sure foreigners have enough to live on is to make sure they aren't coming to Turkey to work illegally.

So in your case, I think you will have zero problems bringing your wife here.

Student residence permits, which you will get, are different. You, personally, have been invited to Turkey to be educated here. You have already been checked and approved, and will get a student visa if you don't already have it. After you get here, getting your student residence permit will be a formality.

And by the way. Congratulations for being accepted for a PhD program here. I didn't realize you were coming for a PhD. What a great accomplishment in your life!

And besides my personal admiration for you, I think this is also going to make a big difference when your wife goes to get her residence permit. You are not a person coming here to start at a university, as if they just finished high school. You are coming to work on a PhD. And I am sure they will take this into consideration in a very favorable way for you.

So one tip I would give you. When you or your wife talk to the immigration specialist, be sure to mention that you are here for a PhD program. I think that will immediately remove any worries that your wife might be here to work illegally.

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You are great Ken. Some part of my success in Turkey is turned back to Turkey Central.

Thanks for you. Not every one gives this info. without paying at all.

I wish to see you one day:)

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If I have helped you, it means I have been successful.

I spent a large part of my life in the US military. I went to a lot of places in the world which were, of course, foreign to me. Before I went to a new place, I depended on others to help me anticipate what my life would be like in that new place. Then after I got there, I depended on others to understand where things were, how things were done, and what was going on around me. I know how you feel.

I just saw that this topic has had 663 views. So besides you, hundreds of others have also been helped because you have taken the time to share your situation here. And that's just this topic... you have a few others going as well.

It would be nice to meet you some day. But for now let's just get you and your wife to Turkey and get you settled, so you can get to working on your PhD! :)

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