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Turkish nationals should have the right to enter EU countries without a need of visa

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1. Turkish citizens should not pay anything for visa.

2. Borders within the EU and borders between the EU and Turkey do not exist anymore since refugees easily leaking from here.

3. You don't really secure your country when you ask for visa. There are already millions of people entered Europe who can be potential threat to European Civilization.

4. Europe should not discriminate Turkish citizens anymore while thousands and millions of refugees and migrants entering into Europe without a need of visa and even passport.

 

 

 

Letting thousands of illegals without a visa and passport and asking Turkish citizens for visa does not really improve Europe's border security.

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Generally the need for Visas is reciprocal, Europeans need visas for entering Turkey and Turks need visas to enter Europe I cannot see a problem with this arrangement. It is the same as the old system to buy property in Turkey... you can buy if a Turk can buy in your country. Simple really.

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Well this is unfortunate; I agree that Turkish citizens must be allowed to visit any EU state visa free for tourism purpose. But to get a residence permit or other sort of documents those people need to acquire a visa; 

 

EU is not allowing all Turks visa free entry because they are afraid that people will come in mass migration to EU and wont return back and disperse. This is not entirely false but there can be other solutions and steps which can be taken to avoid those people uneligble to enter.

 

Perhaps there are some rules if you are not aware which allow Turkish doctors, lawyers (AND SOME OTHER high profile professions) to enter EU without visa (or with visa) but with very minimal requirements. But this is not open and up for all Turks.

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I don't understand why Turks feel that they should be entitled to visit any EU country without a visa. British people are required to get a visa to visit Turkey. Surely a reciprocal arrangement is not unreasonable.

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16 hours ago, IbrahimAbi said:

I don't understand why Turks feel that they should be entitled to visit any EU country without a visa. British people are required to get a visa to visit Turkey. Surely a reciprocal arrangement is not unreasonable.

Hey,

 

For British people its a visa on arrival, an e-visa is as good as no visa required since it does not require any extra paperwork and it can never be denied but this is not the same case with Turks applying for a UK visa or even any EU member country visa in general even if that country is well below Turkey (Economically and HDI). I think Turkey needs to developed significantly and provide employment to all their (major) population and some other policies must be met in order to get an EU visa free access. 

 

It is more like a privilege given to strong passports (with stronger economy and overall HDI improved) rather than just being a neighbour or just a part of Europe Custom Union.

 

For example Moldova and Albania are countries very weaker compared to Turkey both in terms of economy and stability but are still given the right to visa free access to all EU member states (other than the UK); a small population also plays a vital role since a country with a few million residents can't be a big risk of mass migration flow even after visa free access is given but a country with a big population such as Turkey with so many people without job or with need of employment; such privilige can bring more harm rather than good to the EU in general.

 

Note: There are many countries allowing other countries to visit them visa free or visa on arrival (mainly countries with high tourism but since they are poor, they are not given the same privilege by the WEST; so it is not exactly a matter of reciprocal arrangement. 

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When Turkey introduced the e-visa program...it definitely made life way easier (tourism-wise)...on the other hand trying to get a visa to say the USA...you can't just apply and get one online.  I think its more of a security issue more than anything else.  A visa upon arrival or a e-visa program would inundate the already crap DHS (Department of Homeland Security)/TSA (Transportation Security Agency) systems.  Plus the USA or say even UK etc. doesn't want a bunch of random people flooding the country & just not leaving...(looking at you Mexico!).  Although the jobs that no one wants to do, gets done (field/labor workers etc.)...the strain on the welfare system is just too much especially on the average taxpayer.

 

Sorry...went off on a tangent at the end.

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I went to a meeting with the US consulate some years ago. They explained that because there were so many people coming to the USA on tourist visas, then never leaving, they had to put the burden on the visitor to demonstrate that they were going to leave when their visa expired. So they have to show they have a home, a job, investment, something, anything, so they can show that they are not coming to stay permanently.

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