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Hey,

I'll try to keep this short and sweet to cut through any unnecessary drama.

Some years back an investment “opportunity” arose from family members. The idea was that after 15 months I'd get double my investment if I helped them out. They were so sure of themselves and pretty convincing on how easy it will be and what not, I handed over 65,000 pounds of my hard earned savings and thought happy days.

Thinking the investment would pay off I passed up a job promotion (albeit not fancy but still) on top of which I left my job and packed up and headed on down here. This was 2 years ago.

However upon arriving, it seems that all was not so glorious and that they had blown through most of the total investment on pointless things like a bunch of brand new cars and flash offices that were not necessary. Sadly they spent more time and money trying to 'look' the business instead of actually doing business.

I got royally screwed through poor judgment and terrible understanding of how things worked in Turkey and it seems I won't be seeing that money ever again and I have simply grown to accepted that. Their blatant recklessness was discussing.

Anyway, Life lesson learned. Long story short, I have some money remaining enough to get me through maybe another 6 months.

I was planning on moving back to England and just starting from scratch but knowing I have to do that is really hurtful.... starting from shared flats and bedsits is just something I can't bare the thought of to be honest. With the current exchange rates, I'd only have 2 months worth of rent upon returning if that and that's a scary thought as no job in guaranteed for me there.

My question is, is there anything I can do in Turkey? I was thinking possibly being a teacher but I'd make a terrible teacher, then I thought of being some kind of translator but would have no idea where to start.

Then I thought maybe some kind of desk job that requires English? I mean it would be terribly wasteful to know English so well and fail to put it to use. Possibly based in tourism or working at a company that requires native English speakers for inport \ export goods etc.

FYI, I am a Turkish citizen, and I have a kimlik so I'm certain a work permit won't be needed and or the red tape that's associated with that. I also have no issue with relocating anywhere in the country.

I would greatly appreciate all the help I can get.

Many thanks!

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If you are a Turkish citizen you have no work restrictions. Tourism abounds in Turkey although an "ear to the ground" says that tourists from the West are not booking in advance as they have previously what with HRH Erdoğan, his remarks about the West, and the wars on Turkish borders in the east, couple that with the uncertaintly from the West and its belligerance towards Iran, tourism seems to be down. Which means it might be difficult to get into a tourism related job.

If your Turkish is excellent, both written and spoken, you can get certified at a local Notary office to do official translations. You can contact publishing companies who often need good translators, DigiTurk hires translators on a contrat basis and keep them quite busy doing subtitling for films but you would need to have knowledge of subtitling software which they would recommend.

If your sales skills are good you might convince a tourism company that you can find and bring tourists to Turkey on package deals. There is good potential for more winter tourism in the Antalya - Kaş - Fethiye as the normal season runs from 01 April through 31 October.  Maybe you can corner a niche market there.

You might run a B & B out of an old village house somewhere near one of the popular hiking trails such as the Lycian Trail in the Med region.

Do you have building skills such as carpentry, electricity, plumbing, etc? There is always room for a good "usta" who speaks good English, returns phone calls, is prompt upon meetings, delivers on time, gives good estimates and fair prices.

Think out of the box, look and ask around and do something no one else is doing in the area where you want to live.  Learn from your business fiasco and do something different.

Good luck

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Thanks Hobbit for the reply.

I apologise in advance for my spelling the Turkish keyboard is a tough kitten to get used to.

My Turkish is excellent however my vocabulary is half baked at best. I continuously ask 'what does that mean?' etc... However I do find myself laughing at subtitles on TV shows and movies as they can be very poorly written sometimes, so my Turkish is not as bad as I think I suppose.

Regarding ideas such as B&B's... wouldn't they require capital to begin? I only have enough money remaining for basic essentials at the moment and it is worrying me.

I have many ideas that would generate a healthy income but sadly they all require a significant investment which I can only dream of at the moment so that's out of the question. In fact that is the only reason I moved here, thinking I can double my savings and begin with that.

Honestly all I need is help finding the tip of the string, the rest should come easy without much help.

Someone for example mentioned going to the SSK\SGK or Iskür etc and asking them but I'm not sure how they can help me in my situation. Everyone in this country asks for diploma's for everything.

Thanks again!

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If you have a 4 yr degree at least, you can try teaching english, it's not too hard actually, you get books, CDs materials etc to follow. Turk kids can be rowdy but that's about it. I used to work with Oxfordvision, they're like an employment agency. Salary is ok, and they give you some cash just for starting the job to get you setup etc. You get to pick a location, they'll place you in a school and you start.

As well if you google, 'turkish jobs UK' you will find many jobs that require bilingual people smile.png

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Teaching qualifications for Kindergarten-Elementary-Seconday (K-12) teachers are determined by Milli Eğitim, the ministry of education.

Robert College teacher qualifications: (an elite high school in Istanbul)

Turkish Ministry of Education has requirements that MUST be met before we are allowed to offer a contract. These are:

1. an undergraduate degree in the subject area to be taught,

and
 2. a valid teaching certificate in this subject area.
(This is the BIG requirement for legal teaching in K-12)
 
While not requirements, we also look favorably at advanced degrees, international teaching experience, and experience using information technology in instruction.
 
Please also note that because all courses in the Social Sciences are taught in Turkish, we cannot hire foreign teachers in these areas...personal guidance and its related programs is conducted in Turkish by native Turks, who have training approved by the Ministry of Education.
 
Lastly, we very rarely hire candidates without an interview. Because, for many talented teachers, teaching at Robert College becomes a long-term professional and personal commitment, we urge serious candidates to come to Istanbul for an on-site interview if at all possible, and will make every effort to provide campus accommodations for visitors. Otherwise, interviews may be arranged on an individual basis or, more commonly, at recruitment fairs.

University teaching requirements are less rigid but the competition is very strong both from foreign and Turkish teachers.

Good luck

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Thanks Hobbit for the replies.

Regarding teaching, as I said I'm assuming I'd make a terrible teacher, so I really have put that idea to the back of my head for now.

My original intention was to find out if anyone here actually knew anyone personally or may have heard of a job that I may be able to do and put my in touch with said persons etc.

I really am a stranger in Turkey and I am having some significant trust issues with everybody. My 'emlakci' for example is now trying to con me knowing the position I'm in, but I'm just playing dumb for now I have no other choice.

I really have no idea where to turn or where to start. If I can't figure something out in the next few weeks I'm just going to return back to England and call it a life experience well learned.

Thanks again.

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If you have been here two years and still have no clue about what you want to do, where to find out what you want to do, no have no friends who can help you find out what you want to do then you are probably correct you should run, not walk, to the nearest airport and get out of Turkey fast.

 

Otherwise stiffen your backbone and get out there and experience the country and its people. There are many people in this forum who have had fewer advantages than you and are doing quite well. I get the impression you just want someone to pat you on the head and say "canım benim."

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If you are a Turkish citizen you have so many options. You can apply for all the jobs that we foreigners can't, and you can apply for jobs that Turks who don't speak English can't. I would just get any job you can right now, go get a newspaper and start looking and applying.  Go online and apply there as well, check out craigslist. There are so many options, and all you need right now is a job. I would socialize a lot outside and offer conversational English tutoring lessons that could start tomorrow, you don't even need a book, just a small blackboard/whiteboard and make it up as you go along. Use topics, such as family, ask questions about their family. In Turkey this topic can take up a whole lesson easily and it would be immediate pay, not like a paycheck.

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Honestly after my experience today why is everyone blaming me?

I just came back from speaking with 'Iskür' oddly enough I spoke directly with the head of Iskür so I was optimistic but he broke things down to me pretty straight forward.

I suggested possibly working in tourism he told me you'd have to know places like Antanlya or Izmir like the back of your hand and that I'd get odd requests like where to find a escorts etc from party going youth which is something I won't involve myself in thanks.

I suggested working in a bank in the English speaking department (call centre \ helpline etc) he told me I'd need a degree in banking to go into that.

I suggested being a translator, he noted that my Turkish wasn't the best and not to hope for anything like that and again even if I'd need some kind of Diploma for that too as nobody cares anymore if your mother language is English.

I mentioned teaching he again reminded me I need a specific degree for that regardless.

Lastly I suggested working at a hotel of some sorts but he pointed at me and he honestly told me that they have a specific 'look' hotels look for and that I just don't fit the category (I understood what he meant by that so not a bother.)

Now after all this what the hell is it everyone here is telling me is doable? If the main man himself is telling me to give up....

And need I remind you guys that I don't know anybody here for a good reason.... Every person I meet and tell them I'm from England wants to be my friend very quickly whilst reaching for my wallet. I'm sure everyone here knows what I mean by that.

I just renewed my rent for one month for 1000 lira including the emlakci fee which has reduced my total monetary to 7000 lira and in the current exchange rate that is cringe worthy.

Unless someone can say that there is a job available for me I can do, there genuinely is no reason left to stay here.

Thanks for the replies.

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On 4/28/2015 at 0:25 PM, Walker said:

Honestly after my experience today why is everyone blaming me?

And need I remind you guys that I don't know anybody here for a good reason.... Every person I meet and tell them I'm from England wants to be my friend very quickly whilst reaching for my wallet. I'm sure everyone here knows what I mean by that.

Unless someone can say that there is a job available for me I can do, there genuinely is no reason left to stay here.

Thanks for the replies.

You have been hanging around with the wrong "Every person." Wallet grabbing has certainly not been my experience.

Have fun in jolly old England.

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My mistake I wrote that wrong. What I meant was they immediately think I'm rolling in money and try to be friends for that reason.

Clearly I've given the wrong impression here as nobody really understood the question I don't think. I hope I may be able to simplify it somewhat.

Does anybody here know of an employer currently looking for somebody who speaks English?

Thanks for all the replies.

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I know what you mean, Walker. The same has happened to me. And I've also been ripped off a couple of times.

I think the best place to start is here:

Finding a Job in Turkey

At the bottom of that article are links to the major employment classifieds.

 

Since you are a Turkish citizen, I think there must be a job out there for you, degree or not. The Turkish wages aren't all that great, but you'll have a job, and somewhere to start. Then later, once you get on your feet, you can look at other opportunities. I know of a restaurant in Alanya who needs help, run by a very nice Dutch/Turkish couple. Besides, Alanya is a nice town to live in. I'll contact them and put you in touch.

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