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foreignmother232

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Hello,

 

I have a question about registering children born abroad. I gave birth 3 years ago to twin baby boys. I'm British/French and their dad is Turkish. We never got married but he signed their birth certificates. He walked out just a few weeks after they were born, and I've never heard from him. I don't know if he registered the boys with the consulate or not, and I've tried contacting him, but nothing. It's been almost three years, nothing. Nothing from him, nothing from his mates, nothing from his family. I was thinking of registering the boys myself, but I don't have any of their dad's original documents, just photocopies, kimilik, now expired passport, license. Is that enough? Should I do it? Can they boys do it when they are adults or is that too late? Is there any reason to do it now?

Thank you :)

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All children born to a Turkish parent can automatically get citizenship via application. The down side is that your boys will have to do Military service when their time comes. It's compulsory for Turkish boy.

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Hello foreignmother232 ,Here is a link for you related to birth and registration process. This is consular website of the republic of TurkeyWebsite is a bit slow at times so i pasted the info just in case you cant open.(if you want to get detailed info just call the nearest embassy i am sure there is someone speaking english)http://www.konsolosluk.gov.tr/gb/en/Evlilik_disi_dogan_cocugun_dogum_tescili.aspxThe parentage of the mother is established the by birth of the child. The parentage of the father is established by marriage to the mother, acknowledgment of parentage or by a court issue. If the parents marry each other after the birth of their child, then the child will automatically be subject to the same rules applied to children born within a marriage. Children born out of lawful wedlock are registered on the mother’s family records with the mother’s maiden name. The father of a child born out of lawful wedlock can acknowledge the parentage through an application to the registry office, court, notary or Embassy/Consulate General for a statutory declaration of acknowledgement of paternity, or through his will (testament). After the acknowledgment of paternity, the child’s registration with the mother’s maiden name on the mother’s records is transferred to the father’s records with the father’s last name. In other words, if the paternity is acknowledged through official documentation, the child takes the father’s last name. If a child is born within 300 days of the legal termination of the marriage, he/she will be regarded as born within marriage. In other words, the husband divorced by the mother will be presumed as the father if the child is born within 300 days of the legal termination of the marriage. The divorced husband can open a court case to deny paternity and annul his paternity. The child takes the mother’s last name if the parents are not married. However, if the mother has two last names due to an earlier marriage, the child takes the mother’s maiden name. It is sufficient for the mother to file a registration application for a child born out of lawful wedlock. According to the relevant Turkish legislation, if a child is born abroad, notification must be made to the Embassy/Consulate General for the area in which the child was born, no later than 60 days after the birth. If notification is made within the first 60 days, the family will not be charged for an ID card for the child. If notification is made after 60 days since the birth, an administrative penalty charge will be applied along with a transaction fee. In principle, registration of a newborn can be completed through the nearest Embassy/Consulate General. In extraordinary circumstances, it is possible for the parents or their legal representatives to register the child by producing the international birth certificate at the registry Turkish office in which the parents are registered. Please note that names with letters “w,q,x” are not accepted as these letters do not exist in the Turkish alphabet. Turkish nationals married to foreign nationals can give two or more names to their child providing that one of the names is Turkish and another is foreign. If only a foreign name is given, the registry office has the responsibility to remind the family of this rule and to notify the Public Prosecutor’s Office if their advice is not taken. If either parent wishes to include the child on their passport, the other parent must be present when this application is made, or must provide a letter of consent giving approval to this child being included on the other parent’s passport (this must be approved by a local notary). If your child has acquired the citizenship at birth of the country he/she was born in the territories of, please read the “REGISTERING MULTIPLE CITIZENSHIP OF A MINOR” under “Consular Services – Citizenship” to register this situation. After the child’s registration process is completed in Turkey, and if the birth notification is made within the first 60 days, then the child’s ID card will be sent to your address by the Consulate General by recorded delivery providing that a reliable postal system is in place within that country. However, if the notification is not made within the legal time frame, the Consulate General will send you a letter to confirm that the registration process is complete and guidance documentation to help you apply for an ID card.

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Did you really read what i pasted from the consular website ?

You are well past that then you must have seen If notification is made after 60 days since the birth, an administrative penalty charge will be applied along with a transaction fee. I dont know how much it will be over the years so i would do it as soon as possible.

Second question is this you havent seen him for a long time he is a ghost basically . Who is gonna acknowledge paternity at the embassy ? he should be present there in order to register children . What about his signature? who is gonna sign the documents?The father of a child born out of lawful wedlock can acknowledge the parentage through an application to the registry office, court, notary or Embassy/Consulate General for a statutory declaration of acknowledgement of paternityThat is why i suggested you should contact the nearest Turkish embassy to find out if you could register your children with the documents that belong to him you have.

Good luck

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I did read through it. It doesn't appear to imply that the penalty fee increases depending on how long you've waited. Was that your impression? Either way, I have to pay a penalty fee so it doesn't look like it matters if it is done now or in ten years. The money isn't the issue.

 

It also says "The parentage of the father is established by marriage to the mother, acknowledgment of parentage or by a court issue." I would assume signing the birth certificates would count. I have those in original :) If not, I suppose I could go through court. I imagine he's still in the country somewhere working.

 

I know I should call, but I haven't made a decision yet. I don't want them to ask for details and all of a sudden it's irreversible. I suppose I was looking for any reasons of why we needed to go ahead with this now, like if they would loose their ability to claim after a number of years, or if it was pointless waiting because whether or not you claim, you're already a citizen, so if they ever visit, they might get in trouble if they don't claim.

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