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  1. There seems to be a system in Turkey where they give each person a percent of the guilt (can also be 100% / 0%), I assume the above means the other person was 80% negligent and Cigi was 20% negligent in their opinion. Strange system... and seems to be rather subjective. I had a Turkish person explain this to me and she said they were called "points of mistake!"
  2. Probably better to ignore my previous comments, I must admit that my visit to Dalaman was only for three hours, and Penny lives there! I didn't see any of the surrounding area, just the city center. After a few rakis I think I'm a lot smarter about everything! So again, Penny, my apologies for my comments, you're 100 times the expert on Dalaman than I am, probably more. I think that because of where it is on the map, my expectations were unrealistically high when I visited. I should add that I think Dalaman has potential, especially for investment, since there are such big plans for that area. So it's probably worth a visit so you can form your own conclusions. It seems to me that a city, that is not touristy yet, in an area like that, is bound to change in in a few years' time, if not less. Even with my previous comments considered, if I was buying a place to invest in, it might just be Dalaman. Another place that I've heard has excellent investment potential (still somewhat undeveloped) is Datca. I heard a rumor that Dalaman is also constructing a brand new ancient archaeological site nearby for all of the tourists. Apparently they don't have enough archaeological sites to attract tourism, so they're installing one. Any truth to that, Penny? Okay, it's a joke. You have to have a sense of humor here!
  3. Have you been to Dalaman before? I thought it might be a nice place to go since it seems so close to Dalyan. I was surprised when I saw it, there's not much there, and it's quite, well, bleak if you ask me. You would think you were in an industrial city farther east. Lots of concrete and asphalt. There's one main road with some side roads. Nothing much in the way of entertainment or things to do, and the buildings are quite concentrated together. I visited Pennyu there and asked her what there was to do there, and other than a few sleezy bars, there wasn't much! Not many tourists live there, it's really just a "working town." Once you see it you'll know what I mean! Dalyan is quite different, a much nicer place to retire--like a different world. I haven't seen any sites about Dalaman at all, and no maps, either. Penny lives there (sorry for the comments, Penny!) so hopefully she can give you another view!
  4. Must sees are Ephesus (close to Izmir), Pamukkale (a day's drive), Cappadocia (near Ankara, a lot farther away and a two-day tour). Pergamum is also near Izmir and is about three or four hours away. Istanbul is loaded with interesting things to see, but you can see a large portion of it in two days (check for the dates certain places are closed, such as Topkapi palace). Izmir is not a touristy city, but a lovely place to spend an afternoon eating seafood by the bay and watching a great mix of people walk by. Cesme has some of the best beaches in Turkey, and is about 50 minutes drive east of Izmir. Gallipoli and Troy are both in Canakkale, which can be seen on a route between Istanbul and Izmir, however there are no big highways going that way, and you'll have to go a bit out of your way to see it. However, you'll pass by Pergamum on the way to Izmir if you want to see that. Most any city you go to will have hotels that offer local excursions. As far as pensions, it's hard to rate them, they are plentiful in Istanbul but there are no good ones in Izmir. There are some good three and four star hotels in Izmir though. I would recommend the Kaya Prestige, which is near the hilton and a lot cheaper. That's a three or four star, I can't remember, but I've stayed there a few times and was impressed. Cesme has a few nice pensions, and is a charming place to relax and enjoy yourself with wide, white sandy beaches and some of the best water on the Aegean. It can be quite crowded during the high season though.
  5. As helpful as I like to be, I shudder to help them go to someone else's forum! Especially when we're trying to grow this one into something. But helping expats is what we're about. Would love to have more Altinkum people 'round here!
  6. Hi Laura,I checked your site and certainly there's some great possibility there. Some of the forums I've seen have classified ads but I don't think there's a site which primarily deals with it... Good luck on your new project.
  7. Dalyan is definitely a unique place. I stayed about a week there and was taken by how green and beautiful it is as compared to so many of the resort areas that are mostly sea, sand, sun, and concrete. The river being so close I think makes all the difference. The dining and nightlife there were fantastic, everyone there was so friendly, and even after returning to Izmir I get an occasional call or e-mail from Turks I met there. In another post you mentioned the Anatolia Cafe, after seeing their menu I had a wonderful meal of Indian style chicken and a few other things, the food is fantastic there. I was surprised at the variety of cuisine available in what is still a small town. And everything is in a short walking distance as well, that is, except for Iztuzu beach, but you get a lovely boat ride there! I stayed with Mike and Nebiya at the Alinda Hotel just outside of town (they operate the hotel). The only thing I heard the whole night was frogs... no car horns or mini-bikes! A far cry from the constant bustle of Izmir. I think of all the places I'd like to retire in Turkey, Dalyan is tops! I've got some photos of Dalyan that I'll be posting in the photo gallery shortly. I'll definitely be back this Spring or Summer.
  8. Ken Grubb


    It would certainly be nice to have the folks down there in Altinkum posting here, but there are so many local forums for expats here in Turkey... so I understand. The important thing is, like you said, to help each other so I'm not very provincial about this kind of thing. As long as people find what they need. If you get a chance, some inside information on what' it's like to live in Altinkum would be helpful! I went there on a visit, just to see what was there, and visited the beach and a few restaurants, and walked around town a bit. I must not have seen the whole place though, I was short on time, but what's the attraction of Altinkum as compared to other resort areas?
  9. I talked with some English teachers in Izmir who are in the know about the CELTA and TEFL courses taught in Izmir. At this moment the plan is to have a course this summer, but a date hasn't been set yet. Getting your certificate in the UK is the cheapest. It costs 1,000 euros here, and you also have to pay for lodging and other expenses. In the UK, you can also get discounts on the courses if you've been working for a while and made over a certain amount of money (I'm not familiar with the UK tax laws, but this might sound familiar to you). They suggested getting out the telephone book and calling around for a course in your area. For jobs teaching English in Izmir, check the education supplements in the Guardian and the Times. They weren't sure but they thought the supplements came out on Tuesday or Wednesday for the Guardian and on Friday for the Times. They have listings for English teachers in Turkey. So taking the course in the UK and getting in contact with a school before you come is probably a better option all around. Only issue might be if you don't have a university degree. One owner of a school said there are work-arounds for that, however they are not publicised, if you know what I mean. So I'm thinking that even if they say over the telephone or e-mail that you must have a degree in addition to the certificate, it might be different when you talk in person... knowwhatimean??? There are basically three types of places you can teach: a Lise (lease-ey) which is a high school, a dershane (ders-ha-ney) which is a private school and a university. They didn't recommend the lises since they can be a real pain, the children tend to be undisciplined and hard to manage. Some dershanes are good, if they're not "cowboy companies" which are basically just in it to get as much money as they can while spending as little as they can. Universities are the best, some pay quite well and some pay badly, but you get vacations. Good luck to you in finding a position teaching English in Turkey...
  10. It depends on what you're shipping, if you can mail it, it's no problem, but it can be quite slow. I recently went back to the States and got some things out of storage, and sent seven packages ranging up to about 4x3x2 feet. Mailing them in the US mail cost me between $50 and $90 USD (half that amount for British Pounds). It normally takes from the US about 2 months, which was cheapest, and the next higher rate I don't recall but it was out of my price range, I was in no particular hurry to get the stuff anyway. You'll need, of course, to have an address to ship it to and someone to pick it up. The PTT, which is the Turkish mail system, will try to deliver them, and if nobody's home, they're supposed to leave a note of the attempted delivery and tell you where to pick them up. It would probably be at wherever the main post office is in Dalaman. I don't recall the amount of time they'll keep them until sending them back, but it's something like two weeks I think, it will say on the attempted delivery paper if nobody's there to receive them when they try to deliver. I did have one bad experience with this. After waiting about 3 months plus, the packages never came. I finally tracked down the post office where they were supposed to be, only to find out that they had been sent back because nobody came to get them. The clerk at PTT said that according to records, a note was left at the delivery address, but I never received it! So I ended up taking back two empty suitcases on my next trip back and putting everything into two suitcases. Everything was returned to the US safely, but I had to pay some postage for the return delivery as well! AAAAAAGGGGHHHH! They do open and inspect the packages when they come into Turkey, and if there are customs items there you may have to pay some kind of duty. Normally this is electronics, but in my case I had some videotapes that ended up being the property of the Turkish government for some reason, I have no idea why videotapes are a customs item (they weren't porn, if that's what you're thinking!). Apparently if its a customs item and you don't pick it up, they don't send it back, they keep it and dispose of it! Normally electronic items are customs items, like stereos, computer equipment, etc. I suppose VHS tapes were considered to be some kind of accessory to an electronics item... Here's a link that explains customs rules from the Turkish customs authority: DEAD LINK. There's also information about mailing personal items to Turkey! Hope that helps! Moderator note: The dead link went to the old Turkish customs website, which has been replaced by this one: http://www.gtb.gov.tr/ Unfortunately the new Turkish customs website has no English option as of the time of this note (9/13/2014)
  11. Hi Chala,Just to clarify, Sultan is a previous name I used as the administrator of the forums, but after being hacked a few times I now use a different name for the administrator without ever posting anything using that name. To be sure the admin name couldn't be hijacked I changed Sultan to a member and now only post as ben densin, as a moderator. Sorry for any confusion... I checked the site as well (and fixed the dead link), they probably don't have any course dates for 2007. I had heard previously that they offer the course every summer in Izmir. I have a friend who owns an English language school, I'll ask him if he knows of any 2007 course dates, and if not, if he would get back to me on it when there are course dates for 2007.
  12. Weeeeelllllll, in my humble opinion.... you married the man you loved. You have some very interesting stories which differentiate your wedding from the millions of others which are basically all the same. You had the bravery to come to a completely different country and throw yourself headlong into the unknown. You had an experience very few peopl have ever had... in my book, you had one hell of a wedding!!!!! Congratulations Jackie!!!!!!!! And Welcome to Turkey!!!!!!!!!!! (kiss on both cheeks)
  13. Don't worry, Turkey makes me ramble sometimes too! I found an article at Today's Zaman written by an English teacher in Istanbul, it's here: DEAD LINK They don't pay English teachers much in Turkey, except in some of the primo places like universities where the credentials required are quite a bit higher. But I know several English teachers here in Izmir and apparently they have enough money to drink beer every night, so it can't be all that bad. However they are fully credentialed with university degrees. These are requirements, and schools that accept less will might doctor the paperwork for you, however they probably wouldn't pay as well. The only places I've ever heard of them giving classes for English teachers was in Istanbul or Izmir, perhaps Ankara as well, but I doubt they would offer the CELTA or other cert class anywhere else besides these larger cities. From what I've heard from the teachers, the TEFL cert is a lot cheaper in the UK than it is here. The websites for the language schools are always in Turkish, not English, since they are geared towards potential students rather than potential teachers. There is always some demand for private lessons, however if the student could afford to pay for it, they would probably go to the school. Finding people who would pay for private lessons would be another thing. No telling what the demand in Dalyan would be like since there are so many expats living around there, you'd probably have to go there and check it out for yourself... If you're teaching art/design, do you do any Web stuff? You might find more of a demand for that, and better money, working as a freelancer... Just an idea. Hey TurtleWebs... do you need a designer? I've answered a few posts about teaching English elsewhere in the forums, try the "working in Turkey forum." Best of luck to you! If you happen to come by Izmir, let me know, I'll introduce you to a few English teachers 'round here at the local pub.
  14. I'm still trying to get fluent in Turkish after many years, and I've bought lots of books and courses since using several enables me to fill in the gaps that one or two courses always tend to leave. By far the best beginner's book I've found is "Teach Yourself Turkish." It is not a large book, but does an excellent job of covering lots of Turkish vocabulary and grammar, for the time and money it's the best I've seen. It also comes with two cassette tapes of contrived conversations to get you using the language quickly. By the end you'll understand all of the basics. I also ran across an excellent resource for people like me who have the basics down, but need lots of work on vocabulary and practice with the ins and outs of the language. I've spent a lot of hours stumbling through Turkish newspapers and magazines while constantly flipping though a dictionary, then trying to figure out what the variations of words are supposed to mean. Then I often still can't figure out what exactly certain sentences mean. I did run across a company offering basic, easy readers in Turkish about a variety of topics related to Turkey, designed for the foreign student of Turkish, which include exercises to test your comprehension along the way. Here's the URL to their website:http://www.study-turkce.com/
  15. I talked to two Turks about this, one recently completed his university and also completed his military service as an officer. The other is in a university and pending military service. Both said that when someone is in the university, but has not completed military service, the government will not stop them from visiting another country based solely on those criteria. There is no explicit law or rule in place which will deny anyone from visiting another country before they join the military. That said, his individual situation CAN affect his ability to leave the country. Regardless of his individual situation, there are many reasons he could be allowed to leave Turkey, and many reasons he may not be allowed to leave Turkey. If, for example, he's put off his military service for a long time, and as soon as he graduates he has to go in, and if he's graduating in the next few months, there will probably be a problem with it. Going into the Turkish military is no holiday, and some eligible young men try to put it off as long as possible, and some try to get out of it completely, some by leaving the country and marrying a foreigner (I'm definitely not insinuating that here, it's just a fact). So that's the angle they'll probably look at it from. For new conscripts the Turkish military is a very austere life with very, very low pay and lots of people screaming at them and kicking them around. Ahh, the military life, how I miss it so. There are just a few ways to get out of it, dying being one way according to my officer friend. In regards to visiting the UK, if he's close to his compulsory service, deciding factors may involve any compelling information he can provide to convince them that he will return for his service when his visit is over. That could be anything. Based on that, I would venture a guess that if his military service must be served after graduation, and he has a few years before graduation, he'll probably have no problems. If he's close to graduation and military service, he probably will, unless he can make a case that he will be here to report as ordered. So unfortunately there is no easy answer, and it will depend on his circumstances and how close he is to graduating and any impending military service he may have already delayed. He will just need to apply for the passport and talk to the officials there to get a better fix on his individual situation.
  16. I know it's been mentioned before but Incirlik is a prime place for these scams. You'll find people in Incirlik who are friendly, hardworking, and honest. You'll find a lot of other types of people there too, and they are also friendly. Many of them have plans to develop relationships with US military members or contractors simply to get them to visit their shops. Others have more dishonest purposes in mind. Many of the scammers have spent their lives at Incirlik and have seen a lot come and go, and they've learned which approaches work and which ones don't, and have many years of experience with this kind of thing. To be honest, I've been taken a few times myself. Not all below is from my personal experience, I've also tried to help out people who were the victims of scams, so what I'm posting comes from that as well. I also lived in Incirlik village and made some very good friends, and was able to learn some of the things that go on behind the scenes. Now you will know some of it too! SCAM 1: YOU'RE MY SPECIAL FRIEND. WHEN ARE YOU COMING TO MY SHOP? When I was in Istanbul at a small hotel I met a Turk who used to work at some of the shops at Incirlik and he told me of one shop where three brothers divided up the responsibilities of running the shop. One spoke the best English of the three, so he was assigned the responsibility of befriending Americans for the sole purpose of getting more customers. What struck me is the planning and strategy involved in his assignment of making friends, and that it was actually part of their business plan. Friendship can also be used to get you to accept things which were made for you which are substandard, playing on your sympathies for Uncle Mehmet who stayed up all night for a week working on your furniture, and would be heartbroken if you didn't accept it. Don't fall for it. It's not uncommon to be presented with a substandard product after paying a deposit for it to be made. Stand your ground, play their game. SCAM 2: THE SUDDEN EMERGENCY, WHAT AM I GOING TO DO? Another scam is the "sudden emergency" which requires exactly the amount of money which you can get with a debit card from the automatic bank machine on the alley. This one involves more preparation and time invested, and works well with lonely people in certain bars in the Alley. They can work several different people at the same time in different stages. Now, when you first arrive you'll find lots of people who are interested in you, most of that will be strictly from a sense of sincere hospitality, which the Turks are world-famous for. You'll have no problem making friends. But you may run into someone who will exploit a friendship later. Basically one of the Turks at the bar will always go out of his way to welcome you, talk with you, offer help on all manner of things, and generally be the nicest person you ever met. He'll show great interest in anything you have to say. At some point he may even borrow a small amount of money and pay it back after you've known him for a while. He'll talk about what a great person you are compared to other people he has met, and will always warn you to be careful because of so many dishonest people around (except for him of course). Eventually, (after a couple of months) you'll walk into the club or bar and he'll be very worried, hanging his head, and appear to be very stressed. He'll say he doesn't want to burden you with his personal problems, but that he hasn't been able to pay his rent and he and his wife and children are about to be evicted. He has no where to turn and no way to get the money. Since you've had a few drinks already, they guy has been a friend to you, you're making the big bucks, and won't miss it anyway, you'll volunteer to help him out. He'll say that he just couldn't ask you to do that, and you'll end up insisting that he accept the money. He'll be grateful and promise to pay you back when he can (fat chance, sucker!!!). I fell for this once, but then asked around and found someone else who fell for the same story, from the same guy. That person was fired after I talked with the new owner, who didn't want this kind of thing going on in his club. However some of the owners of these places will act enraged when they hear something like this, and "fire" the employee to keep from having pressure from the base or being put off limits. The employee will just go work elsewhere or disappear for several months and reappear again. Certainly people have emergencies, but be aware of this scam. What I should have done is find out who his landlord is, and have someone who spoke fluent Turkish come with me to discuss it. Of course the man would have objected, saying he would be too embarrased, but it seems to me being embarrassed with his rent paid by someone else is better than being evicted. But then again, what's to say he couldn't strike a deal with the landlord and split the money? Things like this do happen! SCAM 3: WANT TO MEET SOME RUSSIAN GIRLS? Some men patrol the alley after about ten o'clock looking for single men who are drinking in the bars. They'll sit down and talk you up, then invite you to Adana to a place where lots of pretty girls are. The place he wants to take you is normally open until 6:00 AM when everything else is closed, and that sounds like a pretty good idea to a drunk GI or contractor. These places are called "pavions" or "gazinos," and always seem to have the word "club" associated with them. DON'T GO. One of two things might happen. Case 1: You'll find yourself treated like a king to a floor show, a flower on the table, snacks, and lots of drinks. One of the workers will bring over pretty girls to sit with you, who are paid by the drink. They'll sit and chat with you as you buy their drinks. What you'll find out later is that your bill is incredibly high, I've seen people get billed $3,000 for this, and it's all legal! You might be charged up to 20 YTL or more for a drink, while the drink of your lovely new acquaintance is costing 50 YTL or more per drink. By the way, the flower rental costs you another $20 USD. You won't be allowed to leave until you pay, and if you have to go to an automatic bank machine, you'll be accompanied by one or two large men to make sure you get the money and come back. The girls at these clubs are not prostitutes per se, some of them have just had a hard time in their home countries and really need the money. Some, however, will have sex with a guest on her own time but it's not legal for these places to act as houses of prostitution. Anyway that's not the point of this post! Oh, and remember that nice guy that brought you there? Well, he doesn't have any money! Not yet, anyway, not until he receives his commission from the club he brought you to. So they'll expect you to pay for him as well. Now you can go to one of these places and have a nice, although expensive, time. If you ask clearly first the price of the drinks, and the prices of a drink for one of the girls, they will tell you up front. And if you're sober enough to remember clearly how many you had and how many you bought, these places won't normally put up a fuss if you contest an over-billing. If they do, ask them to call the police for you and refuse to pay. They'll usually let you pay a fair bill and leave, but if you don't know the price of what you're buying, you don't stand a chance. I can almost guarantee they'll over-charge you just on the chance that you've forgotten how many you had and can't perform simple math at the moment! Case 2: You'll be having a nice time with your friend, when he tells you to watch the floor show. You'll finish your drink, and that will be the last thing you clearly remember. You'll wake up the next day with him telling you what a wild man you were, how you bought drinks for everybody, and wanted to sit with or dance with all of the girls in the place. He'll tell you of his heroic efforts to stop you (but you wouldn't listen) and how you were very insulting and rude. He'll say anything to make you believe that the upcoming charges on your credit card were all your fault. The only thing you'll remember is this wierd dream of being jostled around and standing in front of an automatic bank machine while being told repeatedly to enter your PIN number. Then before long you'll get your credit card statements and find thousands of dollars deducted from your account for charges at this club. What actually happened was that when you were watching the show and turned your head away, he put rohypnol (also called the date-rape drug) into your glass of raki or whatever else you were drinking. You were drugged. The shame of this is that it happens to people and they don't report it, out of sheer embarrassment usually, but if you're restricted to Incirlik, you don't want to tell your commander that you were in Adana, so you pay the bill and forget it. So that makes it a great time to pull this scam. It is also a seasonal thing. Some of the people who do this may disappear for a while and then come back when there is a new commander on base and a new base population has rotated in. SCAM 4: WANT A MASSAGE? One club offers a massage in the back room. A great way to separate a drunk customer from his pants, which also contain his wallet. You'll go into a room where this massage is to take place, and disrobe, only to be taken to an adjoining room where you receive your massage, while one of the workers receives your wallet, and your credit cards. This is great for TDY people whose flight out of Incirlik comes before their credit card statement comes in. Now, there are places at Incirlik which offer massages that from what I know are honest businesses. This particular incident happened at a club that offered them as an additional attraction. What many people don't know is that you can get your money back from the credit card company. You need to file a complaint immediately, and they will send you copies of the receipts. You'll probably immediately recognize that the signature is not yours. The credit card company can handle this for you and take out their wrath on the club where it happened. Of course, the owner will be enraged and will immediately fire the worker, who will be working there again in about six months. SCAM 5: A BUSINESS PARTNERSHIP! You'll run into people who want you to become a partner in their club or establishment. What they want is your money, not you. 'nuff said about that! SCAM 6: WE CAN DO, AGABE (MY OLDER BROTHER)! This isn't really a scam, more of an annoyance than anything. If you have a custom-tailored suit made, or some furniture, you MAY find that the maker will give you assurances that the product will be according to your specifications. Some of them can make furniture from a photo in a furniture catalogue, and some of these shops are quite good at what they do. However some may deliver, then try to pass off substandard work and play on your sympathies about accepting it, bringing up poor old uncle Mehmet and how hard he worked on it to feed his family. They will ask for a deposit, I have even been pestered to pay more money while a suit was being made. Is that a scam? You decide. SCAM 7: COMMISSIONS, COMMISSIONS. Again, not necessarily a scam, but worth mention. Everybody at Incirlik seems to work on commission for bringing business to somebody else. Whether you need a place to stay, a rental car, or a left-handed smoke shifter, just about anybody there will help you find one, and will expect a commission from the place they take you. As a result, you may not be taken to the best place for what you need. So if your waiter says he can get you a house, then he should be working at a real estate agency rather than at a restaurant. I once had a metal safe box which I though contained an important paper. I needed somebody to cut a hole in it big enough to see what was in there. I asked someone on the alley where there was a place which could do that. He got on his cell phone and made a call, later two men on a motor scooter pulled up. One got off, and I rode the motorbike into some house in the bowels of Incirlik village, only to sit and watch two guys banging the hell out of the box with a claw hammer and screwdriver for about 30 minutes, while two combined families looked on, perhaps expecting some treasure to be inside. After several glasses of tea accompanied by constant banging and occasional swearing, they opened it. The only thing inside was a little user's manual and warranty. After my bike ride back to the alley, I paid the promised 15 YTL to open the box, but then the driver of the motorbike, the passenger who stayed at the shop in the alley, and the guy with the claw hammer and screwdriver all wanted commissions. From me! So I got the double whammy of the "we can do agabe" and the commission thing at the same time! Let me say here again that there are lots of nice people at Incirlik who are honest and sincerely friendly. I think most, if not all of them would approve of posting this because, while it may reflect badly on the municipality, they also don't want to see these things happen and want you to be informed. I am sure they disapprove of these kinds of scams even more than I do. So I post this with that in mind! If you know of any other scams, please post them!
  17. Great photos of your trip, Jackie!!! And great stories and info!!!
  18. Jackie you've been a wealth of information on this subject, I think after reading your posts you've got everything covered and it will definitely help other people with questions about getting married to a Turk! Thanks much for that info!
  19. Jackie that is a great story! I went to a wedding in Izmir and it was a lot more formal, but it was basically the same thing during the ceremony, nicer chairs and suits and dresses though, and no flatbed trucks! I suppose you saved a lot of money since you didn't have to hire a wedding planner! Well you've had a uniquely Turkish experience for sure! Did you get any photos? And did you get the parade of vehicles riding around honking their horns? Big party afterwards? Any solid plans for that honeymoon yet?
  20. I hear that Turkish Christmas movie is out on DVD now... "Miracle on 34 Sokak!!!"
  21. Lots of issues here, but I'll try to help... All males must do mandatory military service in Turkey. I had thought it was 15 months but it might have changed to 12. It includes training and a duty assignment somewhere in Turkey, could be anywhere. In some cases, a person can get out after five months, but I'm not sure if it involves paying money or whatever, I'll find out for you. As for the work visa, this is handled by the ministry of labor. It involves a sponsorship by the company you're working for, and both they and you submit paperwork. Work visas can only be obtained from the Turkish embassy in your home country. However, I know from a very reliable source that there are work-arounds for this, which are often done for English teachers. Which means it is possible to get a work permit after you're already in Turkey, but it's not published as an option. To teach English you would normally need a TEFL certification, however there may also be a work-around for that as well, especially since you're a teacher. It would depend on the school to work that out for you. Unfortunately, schools that teach English in Turkey don't normally have websites in the English language, since if you could read the English on the Website, you wouldn't need to go to school! It would probably require a trip to your destination city to shop around for different schools, then go in and talk to them. There's bound to be other English teachers there who could help you as well. If you're planning to come to Turkey and not work, and not get a residence permit, you must leave after three months, then return. This is normally quite easy since you just need to take a ferry to one of the Greek islands and come back either the same day or the next day. Lots of people do it. If you overstay, you'll be fined upon leaving the country, I don't know how much the fine is. Now, buying land... basically you can buy land in Turkey as long as it's not in a restricted area, like near a military installation or in a historic area or nature preserve. Be VERY careful when buying any real estate in Turkey, there have been quite a few horror stories about people buying one property thinking they were buying another, liens on the property or other problems with the title (that the seller doesn't tell you about), zoning issues, and other potential problems. Lots of people in Turkey will want to sell you real estate, make sure you go through a reputable agent, there are a few in Dalyan I know of with part British ownership, which would make me feel a lot better about any transaction. If you have any other questions about this I'm familiar with the buying process, although please don't take my information as advice concerning what action you should take! At any rate, good luck!
  22. CONGRATULATIONS!!! Please let us know how it went! That is, both personally for you, and also the paperwork you had to do... what was involved? Both legally and traditionally??? No hurry, we can all wait until you return from your honeymoon!!!
  23. Thanks Gerard, these are the kind of posts we need!!! I think lots of people would like to discover a place like this. Great input, you have me wanting to visit already!!!
  24. I don't mean to be pedantic, but is your boyfriend Turkish or a foreigner? Are you a Turkish Citizen or is he, or both, or neither? And what to you mean "my country in phil?" What country are you from and what country will you be married in?
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