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Ken Grubb

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  1. OK I see what you mean about Kuşadası then. I was also looking at property prices and they did seem low to me as compared to a lot of places. By the way, there's a very unspoiled beach near there called Pamucak Beach. If you get tired of Ladies Beach and Long Beach you can always go there, as I recall there are no buildings or hotels there, it's being preserved as it is. I forgot to answer your other questions. I talked to a property developer a few years ago about how residential homes are built to withstand earthquakes. He said that they are built very strong now, and older buildings are being reinforced to make them able to withstand earthquakes. There's a building inspection office called the Yapı Denetim Ofisi where you can get a report about an individual building. I don't know where it would be in Kuşadası, but you can at least ask around. Also, get a residence built well after 1999. In 1999 there was a huge earthquake in Izmit (near Istanbul), which brought down a lot of poorly-constructed buildings. And a lot of those who built them went to prison for it. Since then, as I have been told, everybody has been paying strict attention to building codes. Regarding Antalya, It's as if there are four Antalyas, as I see it. The Old City of Antalya First the old city, around the ancient harbor, lots of beautiful buildings and alleyways, restaurants, bars, etc... you know what I'm talking about there. Antalya City Center Then outside of the old city is the city center, if you will, a regular Turkish city. not much different from Adana or Konya, etc... If you live here you probably won't need a car. Practically everything is in walking distance, and you can get to a lot of other places using the Antray light rail system, the Antik Tram (which goes around the outside of the old city) or the plentiful buses and taxis. This area is called Muratpaşa, although Muratpaşa actually also includes Lara, which I'll get to in a minute. Konyaaltı On the west side, Konyaaltı stretches from city center to Sarısu Beach and the mountains. It includes the industrial port. This area is more like a typical suburb, very well developed with nice residential villas and apartments. You can get a place within walkning distance to Konyaaltı beach. Konyaaltı Beach is a pebble beach, and you have to cross a busy street to get to it, unfortunately. There is a very nice area in Konyaaltı along the beach near the museum. A long stretch of very nice restaurants, bars, and shops, all recently created to improve Konyaaltı. Also there's a specious park there, and of course Konyaaltı Beach. Lara Lara is a bit greener than Muratpaşa. It's more spread out and open as well. There are plenty of shopping malls in Lara and some fine restaurants. It has a more "youthful" feel to it. whereas Konyaaltı has more of a "white collar worker" type feel to it. Things are farther apart in Lara, and I think if you lived in Lara you'd need a car to get around. Most of Antalya's coastline is cliffs. (they start in Konyaaltı at Konyaaltı Beach, pass through Muratpaşa and end up at Lara Beach. No more cliffs after that. There's a nice little place in Lara called Güzeloba that I like. It's probably pretty dead in the winter, but it's right next to Lara Public Beach and not far from all of Antalya's ammenities. Besides the public beach there are several "beach clubs" along that same beach, then farther down are the five-star luxury hotels. I mention Güzeloba because I think it may be the best place to live in Antalya, and I'm seriously thinking of moving there, myself. So to answer your question, I think the kind of place you'd be looking for in Antalya would be in Lara, possibly in Güzeloba, but probably somewhere not too far from Lara Beach.
  2. I lived in Kuşadası for around six months and have visited many times. It's a nice town. The main complaint I hear about it is that there's too much concrete and that it wasn't planned all that well. But there is a thriving expat community there, it has some nice beaches nearby, and it's not far from Izmir if you want to go to Ikea or other places to do some major shopping. Didim is very oriented towards British expats and tourists. From what I hear it can get pretty crowded in the summer, and I also noticed there weren't many trees there. One place I've heard positive things about is Turunç, on the Marmaris peninsula. I had a Turkish friend who moved there for a while, and he really loved it. He said it wasn't too crowded and had a natural feel. I haven't been to Turunç, but I thought I'd pass that on. Perhaps you can take a nice road trip down the coast from Kuşadası to Fethiye, and stop in on some of these places. I had heard great things about Kaş, in Analya province on the Mediterranean coast. I told @Cukurbagli about wanting to check it out, and one day he called and said there was an apartment available. Within hours of walking around, I knew I wanted to live there. Within around four hours I signed the contract on the apartment. Then I lived there for three years and loved it. I hear it's gotten more crowded in the summer though. I finally moved since I wanted to be around expats who weren't mostly all retired, so I ended up moving to Antalya, but Kaş was, for the time, one of the nicest places I've ever lived. Kaş isn't on the west coast, I just bring it up because seeing the place and experiencing it made a big impact on me. So I'd recommend you do the same for various towns on the west coast. Good luck in your search. I'd love to hear about what place you finally choose, and why! I hope you enjoy the trip as you look for the best place to live.
  3. The only information I have has to do with a rejection for a residence permit. It says to do what you did, to take the rejection document and receipts back to the office where you paid the fees. I don't know if that's considered by the tax office to be a completely different situation or if that procedure is obsolete or handled differently in Istanbul. I don't have any additional info concerning cases where a person gets only one year instead of the two full years. I'm sorry I couldn't be of any help, I just wanted to let you know I've checked my records and don't have any additional info beyond what you've already posted. If you do find out what the current procedure is, please post it... then I can refer people who have the same problem to this topic in the future.
  4. Okay, great! Glad to hear you got in. Was there anything you did differently that made it start working again? That would be something good to know.
  5. I don't know why the residence permit application system wouldn't support Apple computers. Maybe one browser works better than another, though. I have a guide in progress about tips and fixes to use when applying online for a residence permit. It's not published yet, but here's the tips and fixes section: Tips and Fixes Here are some techniques you can use to make the process easier and to fix problems that might occur. Use a Regular Computer. Use a desktop or laptop. Don't use a smartphone or tablet. Apply Early in the Morning or Late at Night. Internet traffic is low during these times. Change the Language to Turkish. You can change the language of the application website by selecting the Turkish option at the top of the page. You can switch back and forth from Turkish to English without any problems—it won't delete what you've entered. Or you can use the Chrome browser with the Google Translate extension, which will translate Turkish for you. When you submit the information, do it while it's in Turkish mode. Use a Different Browser or Use Private Mode. Sometimes you can fix a problem by using a different browser. You can also try using the "private mode" setting, which comes with most browsers. The private mode setting will stop the browser from sending unnecessary information to the online application website. Use a Different Computer. Some problems can be fixed just by switching computers, either another one in your home, at a friend's home, or an internet café. Reset Your Modem or Router. Reset or unplug your modem or router for ten seconds, then plug it in again. Sometimes internet service providers use a "rotating" IP address system, so when your router comes back on, it'll have a new IP address. Disable Ad Blockers. Ad blockers may perceive some functions on the DGMM application website as advertisements. So turn them off.
  6. You could just go by yourself to a notary and use the words kira sözleşmesi (rental contract) and noter onaylı kopya (notarized copy). They do a lot of them so you shouldn't have any problem. And if you do, it's likely somebody in the office or nearby will speak English. Translators are often found around notary offices. Be sure to take your passport and current residence permit with you. By the way, I recommend using Google translate, at https://translate.google.com/ if you need anything translated. It does a remarkably good job with English to Turkish and Turkish to English. Also, use the Chrome browser. You can download the Google Translate application and install it by using the drop-down menu near the upper right an clicking on "More Tools --> Extensions." Then search for the Google Translate application and follow the instructions to install it. After that, every Turkish website you go to will have the option to translate it into English. Thanks for that information, Gabriel! I wasn't aware that in some cases now a person can do their interview in a different province because of the pandemic.
  7. There are some notaries who insist the landlord and renter be present to make a notarized copy. The only place I've heard of notaries insisting on this is in Istanbul, probably because they have a problem with fake rental contracts. What you need is not a notarized rental contract. What you need is a notarized copy of the rental contract. A notarized rental contract is where you and the landlord create and sign the contract in the presence of a notary. The notary affirms that the two of you have entered into the landlord/renter agreement. A notarized copy is simply a copy of whatever contractual agreement already exists. The notary is affirming "this is a true and accurate copy of the rental contract." They are only affirming that the copy is authentic and that it is exactly the same as the original. This is so that the DGMM can keep a legalized copy of the contract, and so you can keep the original. That's all it is. And that's all the DGMM requires. Some notaries have insisted that both of these things happen in their presence--the landlord and you affirming the contract itself, and that the copy of the contract is a true and accurate duplicate of the original. So unless the notary you visit is one that insists both of you appear, you can just walk in with whatever contract you have, the notary will make a copy of it, and put their stamp and signature on it to affirm that the copy is a true and accurate duplicate. Normally you have to apply for your residence permit in the province where you'll be living. Are you saying that they told you that you could do your application interview in Antalya, even though your residence will be in Afyon? Have you called the 157 helpline about this?
  8. Hi Gabriel, I'll try to help. 1. You just need to get a notarized copy of your rental contract before you go to your appointment at the DGMM. They'll keep the notarized copy, and you'll keep the original. Regarding the late address registration, you'll just need to explain the late address registration. The worst case scenario is that you'll have to pay a fine, but I've registered late before and wasn't told to pay one. 2. If you primarily lived in Afyon, that shouldn't be a problem. 3. That's correct. The Turkish government is trying to stop the abuse of the short-term touristic residence permit by those who continue to extend short-term touristic residence permits over and over again (as I have been doing!). There are exceptions to the new rule concerning not extending touristic residence permits. Firstly, you can still get one if you can provide an explanation concerning why you need another touristic residence permit. And, the rule doesn't apply to citizens of the following countries: Austria Australia Belgium Bulgaria Canada Chile China Croatia Cyprus Czechia Denmark Estonia Finland France Germany Greece Hungary Iceland İreland Israel Italy Japan Korea Latvia Lithuania Luxembourg Malta Mexico Netherlands New Zealand Poland Portugal Romania Russia Slovakia Slovenia Spain Sweden Switzerland United Kingdom United States Source: https://www.mondaq.com/turkey/investment-immigration/871644/new-decision-from-immigration-authority-regarding-touristic-residence-permits. Mondaq is a site where legal articles are posted by highly reliable sources. The author is Turkish lawyer Ali Yurtsever. 4. If you're from one of the above countries, you won't need a reason. The rule won't apply to you. But have a reason why you want another touristic short-term residence permit ready to provide them if you need one. They'll give you ten days to leave the country. Or you can apply for another type of residence permit which isn't touristic. If you're going to be working for a Turkish company, you must have a residence permit. If you're working for them with just a residence permit you'll be working illegally, which will subject you to possible fines and deportation, and them to even higher fines. So they must get you a work permit. The work permit application is a completely different and separate thing from a work permit. You can apply for both at the same time. Your work permit also serves as a residence permit, but you can have both. And you can apply for both at the same time.
  9. I assume your application is for a short-term residence permit. Here's the latest info I have (I haven't heard of any change in requirements). You'll need: Registration form (that you'll download and print after completing the online process) Passport Copy of passport, including the photo and information pages (no need for a notarized copy) Four biometric photos Proof of address (regular copy of your property title deed or notarized copy of your rental agreement) Proof of ability to support yourself financially (going back six months, for me they only ask for printouts of my bank account statement) Health insurance Normally you should update your address information within 20 business days of your move. Because it's a province-to-province move, the process involves an application for a new residence permit. If you're within 60 days of the expiration of your current residence permit and are applying for an extension anyway, you can update your address during the extension process. If it's a move within the same province, you just need to go to the local Directorate General of Migration Management (DGMM) with proof of your new address. The immigration official will update the central address system there, so there's no need to go to the Population and Citizenship Directorate (Nüfus) any more.
  10. @Selim1984uk, I don't think Ender could give you answer based on your personal situation, but yes, if a condition is such that it hinders you from doing your military service, you'll be excused. With autism or learning difficulties, it would depend on the severity of the condition, and only a doctor could diagnose that. I might suggest you use the links in the military service guide and contact the Turkish military recruiting authorities and ask them. Ultimately it is they who will decide who is fit for service and who isn't. @Omer Varol, thanks for the suggestion! I will add that information before publishing. It is good to know someone who recently went through the process.
  11. Here are the guides I recently wrote about obtaining Turkish citizenship by birth, and Turkish citizenship and the military obligation. Besides reading the laws, and talking to the Population and Citizenship Directorate (Nüfus), I also had them reviewed by @Eglegal (Av. Ender Keleş), our community lawyer. See attached. Please feel free to provide any positive or negative comments you might have. I want to be sure they make sense and are readable. Citizenship and Military Obligation.docx Citizenship by Birth.docx
  12. An update: The five years in Turkey must be with a residence permit or a work permit. Time spent in Turkey with a student residence permit, or a visa, doesn't count towards the five years required to become a Turkish citizen.
  13. Unfortunately that message could mean anything. The only thing you can do is go to the DGMM where you applied to see what's going on. I wouldn't think it's rejected, since it's a student residence permit and a school is involved. Perhaps there's some issue with the information in your package. Would you please let us know what they said when you go to the DGMM?
  14. No need to bother... I checked on going through another country but it was like two or more days to get to Turkey that way! Since last e-mail there have been no schedule changes, so hopefully the flight is still on!
  15. I recently researched this and found that if you have a Turkish father or mother, you are automatically considered to be a Turkish citizen. So having that officially recognized, then getting the ID card and passport is a mere formality. I read this in the Turkish citizenship law, but just in case something has changed, check with your local Turkish embassy or consulate. I think what Doc Martin was saying is that citizenship for those who have a Turkish grandmother or grandfather, etc., or a Turk somewhere in their ancestry, is no longer offered based solely on that ancestry. But if you have a Turkish mother or father, the Turkish government already considers you to be a Turk.
  16. Actually, I'm in the process of writing about citizenship and such documents! So I've already done the homework. Here is what I know: For all foreign documents, first get the document, then get the apostille, then have both the document and the apostille translated into Turkish by a Turkish sworn translator. The translator will have their translation notarized by a Turkish notary, then return your document with the apostille and the notarized translation. So: Once you have your birth certificate, go here: https://www.gov.uk/get-document-legalised Once you have the apostille you need to get it translated by a sworn translator. This also involves a notary seal and signature. If you're not going to be in Turkey, contact the Turkish embassy or consulate for information about Turkish sworn translators and notaries in the UK. Usually they have businesses near the embassies and consulates. You'll likely just go to the translator. Then the translator will take the document to a Turkish notary. Once the Turkish notary stamps and signs it, your birth certificate will be as legal in Turkey as it is in the UK. Make sure you look on the back and record the document number. If you ever need a translated and notarized copy of your birth certificate again, you can just give that number to the notary and they can give you another notarized copy of it (no need to get the document again or have it translated again). For the criminal record check document, go here: https://www.acro.police.uk/ To get the apostille, go to the same link above concerning the birth certificate. The procedure is the same. In Turkey this is called a sağlık kurulu raporu or heyet raporu. It is a health report. In Turkey you would get one from a state hospital. In Turkey it's a letter, with your photo affixed to it, signed off by several doctors from different departments who basically give you a complete check-up for various things. Since things are different in the UK, you probably just need to go to a hospital and explain what you need and they'll know what to do. Since it's not Turkey, the Turkish embassy or consulate will accept whatever the UK system has. Once you have the documents they need, make an appointment at the Turkish embassy or consulate again and take them what you have. Your citizenship process should be pretty easy after that. Good luck with it! And please, come back and let us know how it went!
  17. Thanks Redders, for keeping an eye on this. Just as an update, today I got another e-mail message saying my flight has been changed, but again it was only the time of departure and not the date. I hope that's a sign that my flight will actually go this time.
  18. Thank you @REDDERS! It's making some sense now. The lady I spoke to at the Turkish Airlines call center mentioned something about the borders re-opening. I didn't quite understand what she was talking about since it didn't make sense to me that Turkish Airlines would be offering flights if the borders were closed. And she didn't sound too sure if that was the reason or not. I think now that the previous flights were listed by Turkish Airlines in anticipation of the Turkish government opening the borders on or before the intended days of departure. When they learned that they weren't going to be opened, Turkish Airlines had to postpone the flights to future dates, again assuming the borders would be opened on those dates. Today I got another e-mail from Turkish Airlines again saying my flight was delayed. But it was only for two hours. So far my flight is still departing on the 27th of June. Thanks for the kind words, @Mare! It will be a nice vacation for me, finally.
  19. Just updating the information here for anyone reading this later. As Redders said, you can't just switch to a student residence permit. The only way you could possibly go from having a short-term residence permit to having a student residence permit would be to leave Turkey, get accepted by an accredited school or university, then return to Turkey on a student visa which would mostly be arranged by the school you'll be attending. Only after being accepted by a school or university, then entering Turkey with a student visa could you get a student residence permit.
  20. Just an update to this topic since most of it is correct. For new residence permit applications, there is no longer any need to register your address separately with the Population and Citizenship Directorate (Nüfus). The Directorate General of Migration Management (DGMM) now does this as part of the residence permit application process. When you change your address, you can also do it at the DGMM without having to go to the Nüfus.
  21. My flight was canceled again, new flight scheduled for June 27th (link to the topic on this above).
  22. An update on my situation. Flight Rescheduled for 27 June I received another e-mail saying my flight, departing 22 June, was also canceled. I called the Turkish Airlines call center again to re-schedule. The time I spent on hold was only around five minutes this time. The Turkish Airlines representative I spoke to re-scheduled me on a flight departing 27 June. The flights being canceled, in both cases, were the international flights from Washington, D.C., to Istanbul. The domestic flights from Istanbul to Antalya weren't being canceled. The representative rescheduled the domestic flight for me because of the change in the international flight. I asked the Turkish Airlines representative why the flights were being canceled. She said it didn't have to do with any individual passengers, the whole flight was canceled in both cases. So it didn't matter if I was a legal resident of Turkey, living in Turkey, or not. She said it probably had to do with the Covid-19 pandemic. Which means she didn't really know. I didn't really expect her to know, but I thought I'd ask. So I'm going to rent a car and go to the beach for a while.
  23. I just booked a flight from Washington D.C. to Istanbul and Antalya, departing June 22nd, so flights from the USA to Turkey are definitely on. My flight that I booked online previously (departing June 10th) was canceled, and I got a message to call the Turkish Airlines call center. After a very long time on hold I talked to a Turkish Airlines agent who rescheduled the flight for June 22nd.
  24. I booked a flight departing Dulles International Airport for Istanbul, then Antalya, departing 10 June. The next day I got an e-mail from Turkish Airlines saying my flight was canceled. Turkish Airlines re-booked my flight over the phone, for the earliest flight from Dulles International Airport to Istanbul, then to Antalya, departing on June 22nd. While the initial e-mails I received for the first booking gave me a link to get an HES Code (a code for Covid-19 tracing of travelers), the lady I spoke to while rescheduling said I wasn't required to get one. If you have to call Turkish Airlines, expect a long wait on hold. Because of the distancing required in call centers, they have fewer operators to handle calls from passengers. For those who will be booking a flight from the USA to Turkey, this is how things went for me. 5 June: Making My Flight Reservation for 10 June I went to the THY website to book a flight from Dulles Airport, Washington, D.C. to Antalya. According to the booking website, there was a flight available for booking on 10 June, the first day international flights were resuming. No Seat Selection Option While booking my flight, the option to choose my seat was there, but there was no capability to actually select a seat by clicking on an open seat. All seats were grayed out. I Successfully Made a Reservation, but Didn't Receive an e-Ticket or Ticket Number I clicked to continue and bypass the seat selection option and I was able to make a flight reservation. I received a reservation code, but no e-ticket or ticket number. All I had was the reservation code. 6 June: Received an E-mail with a Link to create an HES Code, along with an E-mail Saying My Flight was Canceled For those unfamiliar, Turkey is requiring passengers on domestic flights to get an HES code, which is used with your mobile phone and Bluetooth to record your proximity with other people who also have the code installed on their mobile phone. If someone using the code system tests positive for the Covid-19 virus, everyone who has had contact with that person is alerted to let them know that they should also be tested. It can be downloaded onto your smart phone and activated during the period you'll be traveling. I received an e-mail with a link to a page on the THY website where I could get an HES code by entering my ticket number (which I had not received by e-mail) or my reservation code (which I did have), and also my surname. However, I also received an e-mail saying my flight had been canceled and telling me to call the THY call center. I didn't enter my information to get my HES code, since my flight had been canceled, and I didn't know what my dates of travel would be. I called the Turkish Airlines call center. As is normal these days, there was a long wait on hold. I called at 8:45 PM and was on hold until 10:17 PM. Flight Rescheduled for 22 June The lady I spoke to said the flight from Washington D.C. to Istanbul was canceled, but that she could reschedule the flight. I asked for the earliest possible flight. The earliest flight she could book departs on 22 June. She booked it for me, and sent me an e-ticket by e-mail as we spoke. No HES Code Required Since I got an e-mail previously giving me a link to get an HES code, I asked her if I needed to get one. She said no, that the HES code was not required. According to Turkish Airlines, an HES code is required for domestic travel, so it may be that I'll have to get an HES code after I arrive in Istanbul. I'll post again about this once I know for sure. Flights Are Resuming This Month (June) I had been hearing that flights had again been postponed yet again until September, but since I was talking with a Turkish Airlines employee and she was booking a flight for me over the phone for 22 June, this confirms that flights to Turkey are indeed resuming this month.
  25. I just booked a Turkish Airlines flight from the USA to Istanbul, then Antalya, departing on June 10th and arriving June 11th. So I'll be going through the process. I'll let you know how it goes. I'm not going to do anything about it so I can see if anybody from Turkish Airlines tells me what I need to do. I also still have my Turkish SIM card with me, so worst case scenario I can activate my Turkish SIM card and get an HES code when I get to Istanbul.
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