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    LaleRestaurantCafeBar got a reaction from Ken Grubb in What Makes Alanya So Interesting?   
    Areas of Alanya
    Demirtas Mahmutlar Oba Cikcilli Tosmur Alanya Centre Konakli Avsallar Incekum After Alanya there is a town called Gazipaşa, with the local airport. The Antalya airport is a 1 hour and 45 minutes drive from Alanya centre, and the Gazipaşa airport is 40 minutes' drive.
    The tourism season lasts 12 months a year, since we have an average of 300 days of sunshine. The new highway between Alanya and Antalya airport was completed in 2004. There are friendly and hospital local people, who will invite you to drink tea in their homes, or even join their dinner!
    Alanya is rich in culture, history, wonderful nature, international supermarkets like Tesco (Kipa), Metro (Makro), Tansas and Migros, modern private hospitals with European standards, and a wide range of activities and opportunities for sightseeing, make Alanya the famous touristic town as we all know.
    Alanya Beaches
    Kleopatra Beach
    Kleopatra beach is one of the most famous beaches in Alanya. It is a sandy, blue-flag beach. There is a small bay next to it. According to the mythology Egyptian Queen Cleopatra, during a voyage in Mediterranean, stopped in Alanya and had a swim in this bay. The special feature of Cleopatra Bay is that the clearness of its water. People who are looking for a long swimming route can swim along the coast to Fosforlu Cave along the peninsula.
    Alara Beach
    Alara Beach extends almost two kilometers from Alara creek to Karaburun Bay. It has fine sand. It is well maintained and there is a small island in the bay just off of the beach.

    Incekum beach
    Incekum Beach is approximately one kilometer long, and famous for its very fine sand. You can hire umbrella and sun beds at this beach. It is definitely our favorite beach!
    Konaklı Beach
    Konaklı Beach is nearly ten kilometers long. It is all sand, with small rocks giving it a natural look. Along the beach are buffets and restaurants. Water sports equipment is available.
    Portakal beach
    To the east of the city centre, Portakal Beach is around one kilometer long. It is also a sandy, blue-flag beach. As a part of Keykubat Beach, it starts from the place where Oba Creek reaches the sea and finishes where the Dim Creek reaches the sea. Behind the beach rise the magnificent slopes of the Taurus Mountains. In some parts the beach is 100 kilometers wide. It is possible to get service from refreshment stalls or the beach cafes of the hotels. Water sports equipment is available here as well. You can also learn windsurfing from the instructors who work at the hotels. The water is cool where the creeks reach the sea.











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    LaleRestaurantCafeBar got a reaction from Yasmin & Suse in Photos of Alanya   
    Pictures of Alanya, a small impression.
     

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    LaleRestaurantCafeBar reacted to amingr in Rent a car   
    Thanks remembermealanya.
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    LaleRestaurantCafeBar got a reaction from Ken Grubb in Mobile phone network and Internet Vinn in Turkey   
    Goodmorning, I have a Vodafone number and a monthly packet. 
    I pay 28 TL for 500 minutes, 1000 sms and 2 GB internet. The moment the package is almost finished, I receive a message that the packet is used for 80% with an option to retrieve some more MB's or minutes. (5 TL for 250 minutes more and 5 TL for 500 MB extra. Even they offer now for 10 TL 1 GB, or when you buy 20 TL extra 1 GB free internet).
    This is the website : http://www.vodafone.com.tr/Tarifeler/Altin-Tarifeler.php#efsane
    It automatically renews, 3 days before you receive a message with date and time mentioned, they will renew the package if there is enough credit on the simcard.
    For monthly payment numbers (abone) they charge different rates. I use prepaid, because I want to be in controll myself and not being surprised by an expensive phonebill.
    I am very satisfied, never no problems with the internet, and pretty fast.
    Also almost all can be done online, as long you have enough 'kontur' on your simcard. You sign in with your phonenumber on the same website, and a password you will receive after sending a message to 7000 with 'S' .. 
     
    About your other question : I can't help you with that part, but I am sure that 1 of the other members in Istanbul can answer this.
    Good luck with all!!
     
     
     
     
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    LaleRestaurantCafeBar reacted to Geoffrey in Do You Trust TripAdvisor?   
    This was on the window of a local restaurant.
     

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    LaleRestaurantCafeBar reacted to Ken Grubb in Tasucu to Alanya from Girne Ferry   
    Try the Moonlight Hotel in Alanya. It's in the eastern part of the city. You can find it in HostelWorld. I stay there when I'm in Alanya, I think it's around 40 TL per night, breakfast included. Very clean, nice hotel. While it has the price of a pension, it is more like a hotel. It's in a very pleasant part of town (rather than downtown) with lots of nice restaurants nearby.
    One thing they do though, is charge 10 TL for the internet. So if you're going to be online, send them an e-mail and ask them to waive the extra internet fee, they probably will.
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    LaleRestaurantCafeBar got a reaction from Ken Grubb in Advice and Tips About Long-term Rentals in Alanya, Turkey   
    Hi we are owning a restaurant in Oba. Yes Oba is cheaper then Alanya centre. You can write me all your questions in a private message. I will try to help you.
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    LaleRestaurantCafeBar got a reaction from Ken Grubb in Finding a Job in Alanya   
    Finding a job here in Alanya is very difficult. In tourism there is enough work, mainly in the summertime. Can you explain to me which kind of job you and your wife are doing, can you explain more about it? Then I can probably give you some more detailed answers.
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    LaleRestaurantCafeBar got a reaction from Sunny in Photos of Alanya   
    Pictures of Alanya, a small impression.
     

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    LaleRestaurantCafeBar reacted to Ken Grubb in Want to open a Past Restaurant in Kusadasi   
    Found out what? What happened? Did you get screwed too?
     
     One comment on that... if you're doing anything that can be copied, it will be copied. If you come out with a new, fantastic menu item which brings the crowds in, before long every restaurant on the block will be offering the same thing. Thank you RememberMeAntalya foro that comment, if you are ever in Alanya and want to see how to properly run a restaurant as a foreigner, go to the Remember Me Restaurant.
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    LaleRestaurantCafeBar reacted to raminturkey in Want to open a Past Restaurant in Kusadasi   
    I appreciate everyone's "honest opinion". I changed my mind about opening a restaurant and I am taking Ken’s advice.
    I don't want to deviate from my original topic and get into "politics" but I feel I should say something. First, I do appreciate Ken and others like him for all their help on this website-it is truly invaluable. Life is hard everywhere, but we should be thankful to Turks and Turkish government for allowing foreigners the opportunity to live and work in Turkey in "PEACE" and without the fear of being abused and harassed-unlike many other countries in the world (I am not a Turk). Most Turks are very helpful and welcoming. How many times you heard of Turks burning houses and assaulting foreigners. Ok, enough said.
    Best of luck and health to everyone. I cannot wait for my travel to Kusadasi this June. I'll do my best to visit Remember Me Restaurant.
    Ramin
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    LaleRestaurantCafeBar got a reaction from REDDERS in Want to open a Past Restaurant in Kusadasi   
    Hi, me and my husband are the owners of a restaurant in Alanya.
    Regarding the latest rules I strongly suggest you to contact your embassy in Turkey, if you are planning to start a restaurant.
    You need a work permit, and check the rules of the local Zabitha and cityhall regulations.
     
    First rent a place, and put in the contract that the owner can't sell the facility for a couple of years, many people rent a place, and after a few months they have to leave, because the owner of the shop sold his property.
     
    NEVER take a Turkish partner, doesn't matter who it is, even if you know this person for years.
    My husband took somebody inside our place when we started up, he grew up with him from 3 years old.
    He was devistated when he found out, but we did fight very hard to survive this part.
    We did, it was hard, long working days from 09.00 untill 00.00, sometimes later.
    Also you have little private time.
     
    As a foreigner, when your business is very well, other restaurant owners can get jealous.
     
    Before you rent a place, check if there is an apartment complex above.
    All apartment owners must agree that you can open a restaurant.
    If just 1 person is against, you will get a problem, not receiving your license.
    Probably all the time this person will call to the Zabitha, or even the police, for small things even when you receive all papers.
     
    Be carefull with your workers, problems as stealing, lying, drinking alcohol, or not showing up even after a few days ... it all can happen.
    They think totally different then us, regarding doing business. For them it is ' they come for holiday to Turkey, so they can eat what we offer in the menu' .. forget!
    You need to have some specialities on your menucard which other places don't offer themselves.
    Always think what you can do better, offer something new.
    First go check all restaurants in the neighbourhood what they offer, and the prices they charge.
    Organise live music evenings, with also that ' little thing extra'.
     
    If possible, try to have family inside your restaurant as workers. 
    The first year is very hard, the construction and all other costs are very expensive, the licenses etc.
    The second year is hard, but the place starts to be known by many people, and they bring their friends and family also.
     
    To let a restaurant 'turn', minimum 500 lira a day must be earned. 
    We have a 390 m2 place, at the moment 1 cook ( June 1st the 2nd cook will start and dishwasher) , 2 waiters, 1 helper, and my husband and me. 
    For workers sigorta must be paid, electric, and here in Alanya all workers have to go to a special course for a clean place/rules to follow. It costs 60 lira each worker.
     
    Every day we check the toilets, it is really important to keep them clean, clients really appreciate this part, your cook must be the best.

     
    People need to find you on the internet, Facebook and Tripadvisor are very good for this part.
    A free website, like Blogger, is a perfect way to show what you are doing, and put Google plus on it.
    Google plus will guard your visitors to your place, when they have GPRS on their mobile phones.
     
    So far this information.. if you need more, you can send us a private message
     
     
     
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    LaleRestaurantCafeBar got a reaction from raminturkey in Want to open a Past Restaurant in Kusadasi   
    Hi, me and my husband are the owners of a restaurant in Alanya.
    Regarding the latest rules I strongly suggest you to contact your embassy in Turkey, if you are planning to start a restaurant.
    You need a work permit, and check the rules of the local Zabitha and cityhall regulations.
     
    First rent a place, and put in the contract that the owner can't sell the facility for a couple of years, many people rent a place, and after a few months they have to leave, because the owner of the shop sold his property.
     
    NEVER take a Turkish partner, doesn't matter who it is, even if you know this person for years.
    My husband took somebody inside our place when we started up, he grew up with him from 3 years old.
    He was devistated when he found out, but we did fight very hard to survive this part.
    We did, it was hard, long working days from 09.00 untill 00.00, sometimes later.
    Also you have little private time.
     
    As a foreigner, when your business is very well, other restaurant owners can get jealous.
     
    Before you rent a place, check if there is an apartment complex above.
    All apartment owners must agree that you can open a restaurant.
    If just 1 person is against, you will get a problem, not receiving your license.
    Probably all the time this person will call to the Zabitha, or even the police, for small things even when you receive all papers.
     
    Be carefull with your workers, problems as stealing, lying, drinking alcohol, or not showing up even after a few days ... it all can happen.
    They think totally different then us, regarding doing business. For them it is ' they come for holiday to Turkey, so they can eat what we offer in the menu' .. forget!
    You need to have some specialities on your menucard which other places don't offer themselves.
    Always think what you can do better, offer something new.
    First go check all restaurants in the neighbourhood what they offer, and the prices they charge.
    Organise live music evenings, with also that ' little thing extra'.
     
    If possible, try to have family inside your restaurant as workers. 
    The first year is very hard, the construction and all other costs are very expensive, the licenses etc.
    The second year is hard, but the place starts to be known by many people, and they bring their friends and family also.
     
    To let a restaurant 'turn', minimum 500 lira a day must be earned. 
    We have a 390 m2 place, at the moment 1 cook ( June 1st the 2nd cook will start and dishwasher) , 2 waiters, 1 helper, and my husband and me. 
    For workers sigorta must be paid, electric, and here in Alanya all workers have to go to a special course for a clean place/rules to follow. It costs 60 lira each worker.
     
    Every day we check the toilets, it is really important to keep them clean, clients really appreciate this part, your cook must be the best.

     
    People need to find you on the internet, Facebook and Tripadvisor are very good for this part.
    A free website, like Blogger, is a perfect way to show what you are doing, and put Google plus on it.
    Google plus will guard your visitors to your place, when they have GPRS on their mobile phones.
     
    So far this information.. if you need more, you can send us a private message
     
     
     
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    LaleRestaurantCafeBar got a reaction from chalapip in Little businesses- as you see it which are thriving which are failing thoughout Turkey?   
    It is hard, yes .. but like I wrote already, it is a hard business.
    Most Turkish citizens are opening, and then ' sit down and people come in themselves' .. no chance
    We don't harass people, all our personel knows this, the first day they start,we tell them not too..
    You need to offer something different, something what another place doesn't have.
    Planning, thinking, contact with customers is important, talking, sitting a little bit at the table with them.
    Whatever you do, sometimes you loose a client, we are not able to make every customer happy.
    We managed the first year to pay all construction (some was left at finishing the first construction) and we could pay the rent in october '13 again for 1 year in front.
     
    Costs are different every month. Each personelmember salary, and sigorta.
    In the summertime minimum salary plus %, this to prefend that they sit and doing really nothing. Trust me, been there, done that
    Even the sugarcubes disappeared under our b*ts ..
     
    We are checking for a businesspartner..but foreign. All goes on contract.
    Simply because foreigners are thinking different then Turkish. They do business different.
     
    'Friends' are coming in, drink, eat ..and disappear after finishing their meal with the promiss they pay 'later' .. guess? Never comes..
    From every tea, coffee or beer a restaurant owner must pay electric part, sigorta, salary personel.
    So called people from own village are coming to us, and asking beer, after when we gave them the bottles, 'sorry, no money but I promiss..blablabla'
    It happened once, the character from my husband is very soft.
    After these happenings I took all over, no 'friends' are getting ANY chance to do this again.
    It is even now happening that when they see me, these friends, they leave straight away.
    Even my own people, friends who I know and are coming to our place to visit me, are paying for their tea. Even when I say to them 'please, this is my bill now', they simply don't want I give them something free!
     
    If somebody wants to do something like opening a restaurant, this person must be with both legs on the ground.
    Reasonable, but the same time hard, handeling situations with care but also with background thinking what it will bring to the restaurant, at the same moment but also in future.
    We have at this moment 2 personelmembers, which we trust for 500%. The main waiter is replacing my husband when he is not there, and our cook.
    A good cook is not only good inside the kitchen, and for his meals, but also his brain and character must be good.
    Food can be excellent ..but when a cook is for example every day too late, or some other problem, it affects directly your restaurant business.
     
    What people are checking when they come in?
    1. Toilets clean
    2. Kitchen and food
    3. The appearance of the personel
    4. Atmosphere
     
    Have a nice day all
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    LaleRestaurantCafeBar reacted to WineGirl in Little businesses- as you see it which are thriving which are failing thoughout Turkey?   
    RememberMeAlanya - oh I know about those grey hairs too!  The secret is to find a good hairstylist (colorist) that will work in trade -- that's the first thing I did 
     
    Sorry about the off topic Cukurbagli -- so in effort to put it back on topic, here's my take on small business in general.  
     
    I used to own a manufacturing plant, where we specialized in making the middle-eastern style string cheese, or braided string cheese (sorry don't know the name of it in Turkish).  We did not sell direct to market, instead, we made the cheese and then packaged it accordingly for each of the distributors, who then sold it under their own labels, and then was shipped across the United States to various locations.  Around 2005-2006, the United States was hit with a lot of rain in the mid-western states. This caused the havoc in the fields and destroyed a lot of crops. Which, in turn, affected the cost of grain that was used to feed the cows.  Ultimately causing the cost of milk to rise.  In concert with that was the state of the national economy - people were losing their jobs, and tightening their belts, thus minimizing some "luxurious" items like cheese from their diets.
     
    The months before Ramadan would be our busiest time of year, as a small cheese manufacturing plant, we would make about 10,000 lbs (pounds) of cheese a month on average, but during this season, we would easily average 35,000 lbs.  The year of the rain and the year following it, orders went down to about 15,000lbs for the season, while regular production went down to about 5,000 lbs on a regular month.  
     
    Distributors/clients did not want to pay more for the cheese, therefore profit margin suffered tremendously.   I visited Turkey late 2007, a few hours before my flight to Turkey, I received a phone call that we secured a buyer for our factory as we had to close our doors - a bitter-sweet moment.
     
    The point is that small business is difficult and can be affected by many factors, even those that the public may not even know exist.  Couple that with shady dealings and dishonest people and small business is bound to encounter unsurmountable obstacles.
     
    Which ones succeed? The ones that push through, that plan for the rainy day,  that are able to overcome obstacles, and that are able to adjust according to conditions.
     
    I admire RememberMeAlanya, and I sympathize with Ken, because being in business is not easy.  It takes a certain character, a survivor with patience, a visionary with a level head, and a risk-taker with passion.  I'm not in Turkey, so admittedly, I have NO CLUE what businesses will do well there, or how consumers treat businesses.  But I firmly believe that the characteristics remain true regardless of location, and with a little good fortune, good clients will cross paths and become loyalists in support of that business.
     
    Ok - so probably not straight on-topic, but that's my story, and I'm sticking to it
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    LaleRestaurantCafeBar got a reaction from WineGirl in Little businesses- as you see it which are thriving which are failing thoughout Turkey?   
    Thank you, Winegirl.. 
    Don't forget the extra grey hairs we have on our heads now from all stress because nothing can be planned, always constructionpeople are late or they even don't come 
    When all construction is finished, I will post some pictures 
    Have a nice day!
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    LaleRestaurantCafeBar got a reaction from chalapip in Little businesses- as you see it which are thriving which are failing thoughout Turkey?   
    Since 15 months we have a restaurant in Oba, Alanya. 
    My husband has the experience, but it is so difficult when you suddenly are on your own. 
    Incoming and outgoing money, first year you almost can't earn anything.
    Every businessperson knows this. 
    All papers and licenses, it takes time and are costing money. Rules, regulations..
    Also finding good personel is very hard. As owner you think different, a personel member just thinks about the day he/she will receive her salary.
    Drinking, stealing, lying.. we had them all
     
    The second year is more better.
    But always in this business, you must be better, providing your customers something what another place doesn't have, new ideas.
    Near our place are 2 other restaurants, both with their own specialities..but after 1 month both they had the same look as our place etc.
    We are almost 15 hours a day in our place, people are coming back, asking for us when we are not there.
    We planned all wrong, location from kitchen, bar,colours inside.
    We thought it was not really important, colours, but it is .. also the colour of the lights.
    At this moment we are relocating all inside the restaurant, a big construction has begun..again
    We are looking forward to the final result. 
    We learned from the first year, we know that we never will make the same mistakes again. 
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    LaleRestaurantCafeBar reacted to WineGirl in Little businesses- as you see it which are thriving which are failing thoughout Turkey?   
    wow, good luck RememberMeAlanya!  I know how large of an undertaking remodeling can be, especially when trying to keep business going.  Sending you the best of wishes!
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    LaleRestaurantCafeBar got a reaction from Ken Grubb in Little businesses- as you see it which are thriving which are failing thoughout Turkey?   
    Since 15 months we have a restaurant in Oba, Alanya. 
    My husband has the experience, but it is so difficult when you suddenly are on your own. 
    Incoming and outgoing money, first year you almost can't earn anything.
    Every businessperson knows this. 
    All papers and licenses, it takes time and are costing money. Rules, regulations..
    Also finding good personel is very hard. As owner you think different, a personel member just thinks about the day he/she will receive her salary.
    Drinking, stealing, lying.. we had them all
     
    The second year is more better.
    But always in this business, you must be better, providing your customers something what another place doesn't have, new ideas.
    Near our place are 2 other restaurants, both with their own specialities..but after 1 month both they had the same look as our place etc.
    We are almost 15 hours a day in our place, people are coming back, asking for us when we are not there.
    We planned all wrong, location from kitchen, bar,colours inside.
    We thought it was not really important, colours, but it is .. also the colour of the lights.
    At this moment we are relocating all inside the restaurant, a big construction has begun..again
    We are looking forward to the final result. 
    We learned from the first year, we know that we never will make the same mistakes again. 
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    LaleRestaurantCafeBar got a reaction from WineGirl in Earthquake saturday 28th of December '13   
    Yes, they certainly do
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