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  1. Thank you Ken. Much appreciated. We have proof of every payment and it comes out of my Turkish bank account monthly via the Turkish equivalent of a direct debit. Each time the landlord has increased the rent every year by 100tl (except last year where she said she wouldn't due to covid), I amend the amount. Mum has zero income and no pension. I look after her financially. Their issue appears to be mum not paying the exact TÜFE amount every year so they want back pay. They keep changing what they want!! But its the landlords responsibility to dictate the rental amount not the renter. And both parties agreed to the 100tl increase each time without issue. I did reach out to Eglegal but was surprised to receive their quote in USD and equivalent if not more than a UK lawyer. I won't go any further into it out of respect and not to offend but I thought in Turkey, things are charged in lira and Turkish rates. I'm a Turk born and raised in the UK and this is all really putting me off going to Turkey again. I'm considering pulling my mum back to the UK to live with me where things are done "properly and legally" imo. It seems to me Turkey is a minefield with alot of dishonesty and selfish motives. I'm now constantly skeptical of any Turk and assume they want to rip us off. A real shame. That's been my experience there for the last 15 years of living there on and off. Anyway thanks very much and I will post my updates in due course.
  2. Thanks for the info Ken. All noted. Each time someone phones my mother, they ask for a different rent increase amounts or face eviction. It was 3000tl then 3500tl. After that, 2250tl or leave on 30th September 2021 then 15th October and now now they want 2600tl or move out by 20th October. Not even they know what exactly they want. Very bizarre. Today a lawyer called my mother stating that because my mother failed to pay the correct rent all of these years as per the TUFE, if they take her to court, she will have to back pay the difference in rent not paid and they can seek all of her assets both in turkey and the UK to recoup this. Not that she has anything anyway, Don't see how this is logical when the landlord set the rate each year and mum just paid her whatever the increase she asked for. ie. 100tl. How is the onus on my mum to offer more than the landlord is asking for each anniversary? Agreed the rent is now is lower than the going rent for new renters and compared to the maximum increase as per the TUFE per year but the TUFE is there as a maximum. Rent can be increased lower than this but not exceed this. That is my understanding. If they approached my mum correctly from the onset, we would of agreed on a fair increase i'm sure. But they have gone from super nice to aggressive with yo yo'ing demands. If Eglegal is willing, I think it may be a good idea to enlist on their services maybe. In the meantime, I've asked my mother to not answer any more calls. I hope my posts and updates are helping raising awareness at least.
  3. --Update-- Someone claiming to be the landlord's new letting agent called my mum today reiterating the landlords demand to increase the rent to 3000tl. She passed me their number and I sent them the following: After which there was a short back and forth. See attached pics. He claimed we never paid the required amount of rent as per the Yasal kira artış oranı. Even though the landlord did increase the rent by 100tl each year (except last year). This was their choice. I think he is saying the landlord will therefore seek to recover past rent for all the years they never increased it to exactly the amount matching the Yasal kira artış oranı. He said my mother is old and doesnt need the hassle of going to court. I didnt want to get into a long debate with him and my poor Turkish so ended the conversation stating there was nothing more to discuss and in summary, rejected their demand and presented a compromise where by £1750 will be paid from 1st October and my mother will move out within 8 months. He then said they will open a rent determination case. My flights have been cancelled several times by the airline otherwise I would of been in turkey by now assisting my mum from there and looking for a new home. If only they would of just went about things the correct way and politely stated they would like to increase the rent. Instead they shouted and bullied my mother, threatening eviction, court action and several scare tactics and false information from the very start. Does anyone know how long a rent determination case will take and what is involved from my mother's part if anything? 06.09.21 Sayın Ev Sahibi, 13 Temmuz'da amcanız olduğunu düşündüğüm aile üyeniz tarafından telefonla aradım. Konuşmanın başından beri bağırıyordu, çok kaba konuşup kirayı 1500tl'den 3000tl'ye çıkaracağı konusunda ısrar etti. Daha sonra ise kirayı 2200tl'ye düşürmeye hazır olduğunu söyledi ve 1 Ekim 2021 tarihinden itibaren bu yeni tutar üzerinden ödemem gerektiğini ya da 30 Eylül 2021'de tahliye edilme tehlikesi ile karşı karşıya kalacağımı söyledi. Daha sonra aşağıdaki gibi bir mesaj gönderdi: “Artis yapmayacaksan, protesto çekicem 30 eylul de bosaltirsin” Benimle konuşma tarzı çok gereksiz ve kışkırtıcıydı. Keşke benimle her ikinizin de normalde konuştuğu şekilde kibar ve saygılı konuşsaydı. Bildiğiniz gibi yüksek tansiyon, yüksek kolesterol ve diyabet gibi çeşitli sağlık sorunları olan 75 yaşında bir emekliyim. Bu tür beklenmedik durumlar benim benim için çok üzücü ve stresli. 1500tl olan kirayı bir yıl içerisinde 2200TL'ye çıkartmak hem hukuka aykırı hem de Yasal kira artış oranının da çok üstünde. 2200 - 1500 = 700tl. 2200/1500tl x 100 =146%. İstediğiniz %146 oranındaki kira artışı yasadışıdır. Yasalara göre en fazla artış oranı %14,55 olabilir. Bu oranla hesaplandığında, 1 Ekim 2021 tarihinden itibaren maksimum olarak 1718.25tl gibi bir tutara denk gelmekte. Ayrıca kira artışını kabul etmezsem beni tahliye etmekle tehdit etmenizin doğru olmadığı gibi buna teşebbüs etmek dahi hukuka aykırıdır. 5 yıldır kiracınız olarak kirayı hep zamanında ve eksiksiz ödedim. İlgili mülkün bakımı her zaman eksiksiz şekilde yapıldı ve sözleşmedeki hiçbir maddeye karşı hareket etmedim. Bu nedenle beni sebepsiz yere tahliye edemezsiniz. Lütfen unutmayın ki ev sahibi ancak, kiracının 10 yıl boyunca aynı mülkte oturduktan sonra tahliye hakkında sahip olduğunu unutmayın. Geçen Ekim 2020'de covid nedeniyle kira artışı yapmadığınızı ve bunun sizin kararınız olduğunu biliyorum. Bunun için size çok minnettarım. Ancak bu size kirayı bu sene 700tl artırma hakkı vermiyor. 1 Ekim 2021'den bir iyi niyet göstergesi olarak, 1750tl kira ödemeye başlayacağım. Amcanızın anlattıklarından anladığıma göre, konutunuza 3000 – 3500tl tutarında kira verecek bir kiracı bulabilmeniz için benim mülkünüzü boşaltmamı istiyorsunuz. Bu nedenle yine iyi niyet göstergesi olarak kendime yeni bir ev aramaya başlayacağım ve sizin mülkünüzü 8 ay içinde boşaltmaya çalışacağım. Bu süreden çok daha erken de tahliye edebilirim konutunuzu, ancak alternatif konaklama yerini ne kadar çabuk bulabileceğime bağlı. Kendime yeni bir ev bulduğumda size tekrar haber vereceğim. Ayrıca mümkünse sizden, 1 Ekim 2022 yılı içinde ve herhangi bir cezai müeyyideye maruz kalmadan veya kalan yılın kirasını ödeme zorunluluğu olmaksızın tahliye etmeme izin verdiğinizi bildiren yazılı bir mektup isteyeceğim Böyle yazılı bir mektup veya belge olmadan, üzgünüm ama tüm bir yıl boyunca ilgili mülkte kalmaya devam etmekten başka bir seçeneğim olmayacak. Şu an size önermekte olduğum teklifin ikimize de fayda sağlayacak makul bir uzlaşma olduğuna inanıyorum. Bu arada beni rahat bırakmanızı ve üstüme gelmemenizi özellikle amcanızın böyle bir tavır ve agresiflik ile beni rahatsız etmemesini istiyorum. Son olarak , bu şekilde yasaları çiğnemenin önüne geçmek için sizden Anayasanın kiracılar ile ilgili bölümlerini incelemenizi tavsiye ederim. Teşekkürler Saygılarımla
  4. Are there any private healthcare policies in turkey that cover pre existing conditions for first time policy holders? What is the rough cost of a good / comprehensive private healthcare cover? In the UK, the policies (for UK cover only) I have seen generally range from £80 - £130 per month with £250 excess. Will a UK based company that provides international healthcare (not travel insurance ofcourse) be sufficient to obtain a residency permit? International cover ranges from £240 - £310 per month with £250 excess. Thanks
  5. Thank you Mr. Keleş. Great information and its provided us with some peace of mind. We appreciate it greatly. I will update you all on the progress of the situation. Thanks again all !!!
  6. How much are private one to one lessons?
  7. Thank you Ken. That is awesome info, much appreciated. I will head your advice. And look forward to any input from Mr Keleş.
  8. Thank you Ken. Really appreciate the info. I now feel more confident and armed with knowledge before dealing with this. The rent (and aidat) has always been paid on time and fully up to date. Mum also keeps the place clean with nothing broken. So nothing to worry about there. I was advised on another forum to communicate via a notary only. Do you think this is necessary and can you recommend one in Antalya, Konyaalti ? Any idea on their fees? We don't want to get drawn into a back and forth though spending money on several notary letters. I just want to communicate everything across to the landlord once and not negotiate like you said. Do you have a link to a site in Turkish that states some of the law, in particular how the landlord can only evict tenant after 10 years without reason? I will update this post with the progress and outcome..
  9. Hi all Just want to share a current experience with a landlord attempting to increase the rent by 146%! After reading some topics on here with awesome advice and links I now feel more equipped to handle the situation. Thank you so much! Notably Ken! Anyway, my elderly and retired Mother has been renting a 1+1 apartment for the past 5 years. Landlord has increased the rent by 100tl each year. Last year she never increased it out of goodwill because of Covid and we were very grateful. Mum currently pays 1500tl. Always on time and apartment is in top condition. However, recently the landlord’s uncle called my mother and was very abusive and aggressive from the onset stating he / they will be increasing the rent to 3000tl. But out of goodwill he will only charge her 2200tl from October (tenancy renewal date). First, he said if she doesn’t agree, she will be out in 5 days. Then said If she doesn’t agree, he will take legal action and she will have to be out the apartment at the end of the tenancy date while she pays for all of his legal costs. His behaviour was strange as mum has always had a great relationship with him and the landlord. I’m absolutely furious! They are trying to intimidate and scare an elderly woman into paying what they demand (which she can’t afford) or leave out of fear. I wonder if the landlord and her uncle know the law or not. After doing some research online and on this forum, I can see what he is asking for is illegal and the maximum they can raise it to is 1718tl. I’m heading over to turkey myself soon to deal with the matter as I don’t want to communicate with them while my mother is there on her own as I don’t know what they might try and do. I’m going to offer to pay them 1750tl and tell them she will move out within 6 months from October until she finds a new place. As this would be part way through the new tenancy, I’m not sure if they will allow this so we want some assurance they won’t go after her for the remaining year’s rent. Plus, there is the risk of them withholding her deposit out of spite. This is the 3rd time we have had issues with Landlords there. Does anyone have any further advice please? Thanks!
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