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  1. Can you tell us why you were refused?
  2. How did your 16 July appointment go ?
  3. GrahamN

    Nufus & Visa Extension Question.

    Hi. I don't why I assumed you were in the States. Anyway, in Istanbul at least, they don't normally ask for a Yerleşim Yeri ve Diğer Adres Belgesi. A few years ago you could use one of these OR a copy of the rental contract but now they just ask for the rental contract notarised and copied. Again, at least for Istanbul this document is not on the list of required documents at the end of the application form you print off. With the extra stuff needed these days they may choose to ask you for it after posting in your forms. Either of the two options should work for you. BTW I didn't realize 90 day in 180 Visas were $100 for you guys. They are only $20 for UK citizens. One thing I forgot to mention with the Yerleşim Yeri ve Diğer Adres Belgesi is that it only valid for a month I think - in Istanbul anyway - there's a small printed line at the top saying "valid until this date". So there is no point in getting one when you first register at the property if you won't need say for another 6 months, it'll be out of date.
  4. GrahamN

    Nufus & Visa Extension Question.

    Yes I was the same. It must have been 2 years before somebody told me to go the Nufus Mudurlugu to register my address. It seems crazy now but at the time I just hadn't come across this requirement. I was expecting a big fuss and a fine but actually nothing happened. Second time they said I must bring a utility contract as well, so I took that, then they said I had to bring a bill. On our 3rd place I thought I'd better wait for the 1st utility bill (which can mean you reach the 20 business days because the bills only come once a month and it was the summer so all the gas connectors were on holiday so we had to wait a week to get connected). The mudur didn't even ask me for it this time. It wouldn't take a lot for the authorities to put in a slip of paper with your new ikamet saying "if this your first property in Turkey please take your ikamet and rental contract to the Nufus Mudurlugu". I am sure there will be nothing wrong with your Ikamet. If you are out of country when your ikamet expires you will be applying as a 1st timer when you come back. So I would just get a new rental contract. As a 1st timer they won't ask for Yerleşim Yeri ve Diğer Adres Belgesi. When you get your Ikamet just go to the Nufus Mudurlugu then. I guess they won't know you were living there before if you have a recent contract. Officially it's 4 photos but I have been to interviews where they have handed 2 back to me so who knows. Regarding the notarising of the passport - if I remember rightly the printed application form says one thing in English and another in Turkish. One says it must be translated and notarised and the other just says a copy is needed. I've done it both ways and never had a problem.
  5. It is hard to say if it is official - something is definitely happening in Istanbul. There has not been any new law enacted as far as we know but in Istanbul they have decided there are too many people working illegally with touristic RPs and possibly just too many people with touristic RPs who really should have seen enough of Istanbul by now and the authorities just fancy trying to thin out a few of these. Istanbul is full of people from Central Asia working illegally - a stone's through from our flat we've got people from Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan working in Lokantas and Firincis - they may not even have an RP at all. If they have then trying to renew with these sorts of extra requirements will be almost impossible. Take a look at this account of getting the new sağlık raporu - and then the cost - 600TL if you don't have a TC Kimlik No - these guys from Central Asia can't afford to do this every 5 months. I think the implementation will be very patchy, some people may just submit their normal documents and not have to do anything else and get their 1 or 2 year extensions. Others will be given a long list of extra documents and may only be given 5 months or be rejected if the extra documents are deemed not acceptable. One thing in common with these changes is that the Bakirkoy office as opposed to the main Fatih office seems to be the place where renewals are processed and the extra document requests are coming from (even if you post to Fatih it would seem)
  6. This looks like an attempt to scare people out of Istanbul. Rather than say "No Tourist RPs anymore" - instead - basically you can stay if can jump over 10 hurdles (for a renewal) or 15 (for a 1st time application). Knock one of them over and you'll have to leave. The authorties' hope is that people will give up before they try. Again this is for Istanbul - I wonder if they are just picking on a few people to make life difficult. I've heard of random people being asked for police records a few years ago.
  7. Here is another link about this subject Again this is from a company providing Ikamet and work permit services - some of what it says is slightly different. Again it talks about Istanbul only having changes.
  8. So in fact if that is what they have been told, then that ties in with what is being reported - you either buy a house, marry a Turk or get a job with a work permit if you want a renewal
  9. Also from the initial post on this subject TURKIYE'DE KALIS AMACINI ACIKLAYAN BILGI VE BELGEYI - if you've been a "tourist" here for 5 years what sort of document are they expecting to explain you stay in Turkey?
  10. The link I pasted has moved to here now Another site that monitors worldwide change in immigration procedures has something similar It doesn't look like it is just a cut and paste one from the other. It talks though about residence permit renewals only being allowed for an extra 5 months after the initial period. The rest of it seems to be to with getting a police record from your home country and proving from past bank statements that you have been receiving a regular income and don't just have a $6000 lump sum at one point in time
  11. This site is a from a company that helps with Ikamet Applications - I have not been able to verify anything about the restrictions for Istanbul from anywhere else yet so maybe it's not true.
  12. Hi I have just caught up with this news - in summary it seems that in Istanbul only (that's me) any renewal of a Tourist Ikamet will be rejected and unless you are married to a Turk, have a work permit or own a property you will have to leave. It seems the main motivation is to crack down on illegal working - fair enough. But I live without working. I am supported by rental income from a UK property + savings in the UK. There doesn't seem to be any ongoing way of staying in Istanbul now for people like me. Does anybody have any reports of what is actually happening on the ground in Istanbul? Graham
  13. GrahamN

    short residence permit extension

    My experience in Istanbul is just like Redders said. Our applications were delivered to the Göç İdaresi on 16th Nov. We both got texts on the same day 4 weeks later saying we had to go back the next day because some paperwork was incomplete. So the applications had sat on a desk for 4 weeks. We went in and sorted it out on Dec 13th. My wife's card was delivered on Jan 11th (another 4 weeks) and mine on Jan 28th (another 6.5 weeks). So I think your wait is not unusual. And the previous day you get an SMS telling you they are delivering it the next day. The thing is, the memur in the Fatih Göç İdaresi told us after our visit everything is fine and we were approved. So why can't they have another room in the building with a card printing machine and just do it there and then.? I don't think Ankara does anything but print the cards. When I join a gym in Istanbul they print me a card with a photo and membership number. It can't be that difficult.
  14. GrahamN

    Please help!

    Yes. As I understand it you can leave the country before your old Ikamet expires and then return on a tourist visa in time for your appointment. I have done this before without any problems. If you leave after your ikamet expires you will need to pay a fine but can still come back again on a tourist visa.
  15. GrahamN

    Procedure for Lost Ikamet

    Just an update on my last comment about availability of interviews in Istanbul. A friend got one yesterday (Dec 13th) for April 6th next year. Add a month or 6 weeks to wait for the delivery of the card and it's not far off half a year with no ikamet. Regarding our current application that we posted in 4 weeks ago my wife and I got called into the Fatih Goc Idaresi for eksik evraklar and the reason for the deficiency was that I had inadvertently sent a copy of our insurance documents. To be honest I couldn't tell the difference but as soon as the memur saw the real ones (because she could see it was a real signature on it) she took them off me and everything was ok. Like many things about this system it is beyond me why they need to keep the original - surely that it is our property. I thought I heard a year or so back that there was going to be a simple computer link with the main insurance companies for the Goc Idaresi - give them a policy number and it would return the relevant details for them to check. We were seen quite quickly in a room that was reserved for postal application follow ups. However the rest of the place was absolutely heaving with people queuing 20+ deep outside each room waiting for interviews. Must have been 200 at least with others queuing down other stairs just to be allocated a room ticket so that they could join another queue. So everything seems to be reverting back to the state it was in 2016 with long waits for interview dates and under-staffing in the office at least at this main Istanbul office.