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Hi DelI don't know what has happened but the comment that I added two days ago has disappeared.The villa that I have purchased is C1-3. This is a 3 bedroom detached with three bedrooms with a private swimming pool. We are advised that the completion date is 7/08/10 but I can not rely upon what they are saying since I have had several completion dates from them in the past.I will only pay off the balance once I am fully satisfied with the property and all the funiture within.RegardsKamal

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Hi Kamal,after trying, and failing, with emails to Koroglu construction, I remembered the Cornhill, "Client Liaison Mananger" saying email him and he can get things done.Well, no sooner than I email him, he replies and sets to work to get the answers, which have all taken less than 24hrs!Have you tried going through your contact for Prime Overseas? After all they are as involved in this sale as you are, if you don't pay, they don't get their commission, its as simple as that.Did you take out a rental agreement with Koroglu? We took out 20wks winter, 20wks summer, if possible within the first year, enabling us to get sorted for advertising etc.As they are involved with the construction of the flamingoparkavm.com Peter said he would be having architects and managers staying as close as possible, and you guessed it, The Village is one of the closest.Don't know what kind of rents to expect normally, but they are giving

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Hi Delgan I am not having too much of a problem with Prime as they are very helpful in doing what they can. My problems are with the deveolpers because they are not very communative. Yourself and myself through forum know more about each other than what I have found out about the developers in the last 6 months. I have been advised by Prime today that Peter has told them that 7/08/10 is the final completion date in fact it should be completed by the end of July/2010.Whilst I was in Turkey Peter advised us that we can expect to get approx

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Hi Kamal,Flights do vary wildly dont they, I was lucky to get flights for

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Hi Del What they are asking for is the full balance to be paid a week before the completion date less

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Hi KamalOur Rep in Bodrum, Antoinette, advised us to pay through the solicitors and I was unsure why, now, after reading your last post, I think I understand better.Even though I will be transferring the money to them, they will be holding an amount back from Koroglu, until snag list is satisfied, BUT, Koroglu are safe in the knowledge that all monies have been paid, and will endeavour to put right any problems for their last bit of money.Whereas, if we pay them direct and have stuff that needs doing, there is little or no incentive, financially, to rush and make good.Bad press for them if they dont rush, as they are going to be showing phase1 to potential phase2 buyers, so........I think you will be safe, and your villa will be as perfect as it can be, hopefully!Is there a way for you to make the final payment to Legal Independence, and have an amount held by for snagging? Koroglu will be happy you have made the payment, L.I. will be happy to have the money in their account earning interest, and you will be happy.I would not be happy to pay Prime, who are in essence, Estate Agents, and I am not sure if they are able to handle money, apart from their commissions!!I dont know how it stands legally, perhaps someone can enlighten us please.See you soonDel

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Hi Del Thanks for your advice. I have sent an e-mail to my solicitors to advise what I need to do. I don't think the developers are right in asking to be paid off completely before the possession of the vkilla by myself. Awaiting response from my solicitors.RegardsKamal

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Hi Kamal,Did you get any pictures from Peter? I haven't had anything apart from the plans/drawings for my place, so I can work out size of windows for curtains, and see if I can fit a corner sofabed in.Was there any luck with the solicitors, sure getting close for you now!Bye for nowDel

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Hi Delgan That is precisely what the problem is with these people, not keeping everybody informed. Last set of pictures that I have seen are on the website of The Village Koroglu. I do keep writing to them but they ignore my e-mails and Peter only comes back very briefly demanding balance to be paid.I have spoken to my solicitor and made her aware what the developers are asking for and she she will be coming back to me after speaking to developers solicitor. She has advised me that I need not part with any more money until completion of the property.Completion date for my villa has been set for 7/08/10 but I am not booking any flights until they advise that it is ready for me to move into. I have missed some bargain flights because of their dithering.You should have had the dimensions of the rooms when you signed up to buy your flat but if you havn't then you can ask them to give you room dimensions.I will be glad when its all over so that I can enjoy my place. Peter has been emplyed by the developers to look after the British people so that there is no language barrier but he is next to useless. How can you trust somebody who does not communicate with you.Kind regrdsKamal

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Hi Kamal,Last night I was reading the posts here about banks and which types of accounts to have.Do you have a bank in turkey already? Peter is going to pay our rent into a Turkish bank account, which we have to open soon, but which one? At the moment, HSBC pay 9,75% interest on one of their accounts, but as I understand the rates are dropping, much like what has happened here I guess.I am going to look at the banks referred to in some of the other posts, to try and make some kind of informed decision! Ken, aka Ben Densin, refers to Garanti bank and rates them well, and I think they have a branch in London too.Of course, I will try and find one close to The Village, if possibleBack soonDel

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Hi Del I have not opened the bank account as yet but HSBC seems like a safe bet as they operate in both countries. The other thing is that you require tax ID in Turkey before the bank account can be opened. I will be able to transfer the balance to my solicitor who can transfer the funds to developers on completion.I do wish that Peter was communicating so that I can plan head and make the buying of villa as smooth as possible. As we are living in UK and buying in Turkey it does not make it easy for us if we have unhelpful developers. As far as the money is concerned it is all sorted out but we have to feel very safe and secure with parting of our money as it can be very difficult to get them to sort out their mistakes afterwards.They may be fine bunch of people but they have done nothing to allay distrust which can only come through communicating - they only have themselves to blame.RegardsKamal

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Hi, everyone.Having just signed up to buy an appartment in Bodrum, for holidays and letting, I thought it a good idea to check some things out and came across your site, I'm impressed!We, Del & Jody, and our kids, Joseph & Grace, have finally settled on 'The Village' on the main drag from Bodrum airport to Bodrum Central.Although the views from all the other places were fantastic, we liked the idea of the flat ground of 'The Village', plus Lake Tuzla and Vita Park golf being a few minutes away! Oh, and if it gets built, Flamingo Park Shopping Centre. (Any news on that one?)Is there a company search type thing for Turkey? I was after finding out more of the construction company, S.C.V Koroglu Construction Co. Ltd.We 'bought' , subject to all the legal stuff, 2 bed,1 bath, GF appt on phase 1, which is built and they are just tiling ours. Phase 1 finances phase 2, which is the reason for my question.Many thanks for any replies, and glad to be a part of TurkeyCentral!Del

Hi DelIt's a very good idea to purchase an appartment from Bodrum. Because with its nature and people Bodrum is one of the best cities in Turkey. Nevertheless I would like to inform you about a few topics. First of all there are many clever person in Turkey who can cheat on you. Thats why I recommend you to do your transactions with a lawyer who knows english. If you like I will be very happy to help you. Best RegardsAslı DURU Law Office www.asliduru.av.tr (also you can have a look from my website)

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durulaw, you may have missed my post to you asking that you go to the Meet and Greet section. It would be good if you could tell us how long you have been practising and what types of law you specialize in and therefore qualified to give advise.I look forward to reading your introduction :).

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Hi Abi I am a new member in this forum so I would be very thankfull if you help me. For example I want to give information about Duru Law Office. As you said I am looking for the Meet and Greet section but I couldn't find it.

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Hi Durulaw,Thanks for the advice, but if you had taken the time to read the whole post, you would have notice that both myself and Kamal, who is also buying in Bodrum, are already using the company Legal Independence.Thanks anyway, and WELCOME to the forum (thats a big welcome!)Del

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durulaw, Sorry you are having a problem finding your way around but realise it can be a bit confusing.Anyway if you go to the top of this page you will see different headings in red, there is one called "Turkey Forum" if you click on that you will see a list click on the first one that says, "Forum Home" you will then be on the main forum page and the first section says >Meet and Greet, you will then be able to post your introduction :):hysterical[1]:

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Hi Del Just to advise since our last post that the solicitor has advised that the balance need not be paid until the completion of the property i.e when we take possession of the property. I am holding back until I am advised by the solicitor to transfer the balance.My advice to you is to do the same because it can be very problematic after all the cash has been paid.Welcome to the new member Durulaw who has been already briefed by yourself. I am keeping a close watch on the flights to Turkey at present and they appear to be expensive. May be flights to other places than Bodrum could be a better bet.RegardsKamal

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Hi Kamal,Glad to hear that your solicitor is helping you out now, must ease your mind a bit!How did you get on with the flight search? Was it any better with other airports?I think the new runway at Bodrum is nearly finished, so hopefully next year more flight providers will come on board and make it even cheaper for me and you!Did you get any pictures sent over?RegardsDel

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Hi Del Believe me I am an optimist as a person but these people are doing in my nut. I gave not had any response from the developers in any shape or form. Out of frustration I sent an e-mail to my solicitor and followed it up with telephone call. She spoke to the developer and was advised that things are progressing and the developer was critical of Peter's information. I am hoping that the completion is still for 7/08/10 but I can not be sure until I hear from solicitor. Word of advice to you if you want to accept it, having paid about half the money don't pay any more until the title deeds (TAPU) is in your name.There are so many cases of people losing out serious amount of money and this is why I am telling the developers that the completion to me means when I am in the property and get the title deeds in my name.I have been looking for flights and there is nothing cheap in August but I would not mind paying about

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Thanks for the heads up on the new visa Kamal, I didn't know they had changed.As I understand it, you can be in turkey for a total of 90 days in 180 days, so you could have a fortnight in Turkey every month for six months, if you wanted (could afford the flights more like) and only pay

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Hi Del I am sure that they are getting on with the building but communicating back with the clients is also important. When people don't talk mind starts wondering as to what is happening and starts painting a bleak picture.I am hoping that it will all go as planned and that we will be very happy, but there are a lot of bad stories out there such as builders taking out bank loans on the property.You can give power of attorney to your solicitor but my advice to you is that you should be there at the time of completion to check the property and make sure that you get the title deeds (TAPU) transferred to ylour name even if it is costing a pretty penny.You are at least working, I am a an early retired person living on occupational pension from BT but assigning the property to my name should not be left to somebody else.I am looking forward to here from them that phase 1 is all completed and some pictures on the website.Regarding the visa, one can split up 90 days over six month and can go out to Turkey when the flights are reasonable.RegardsKamal

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I would agree with Kamal about POA, if you can, be there yourself. If you do give POA be sure that you are very specific in what they are allowed to do and a time frame, Don't forget you will also need to cancel the POA and get it notorised and keep a copy.Once you get your Tapu the property is legally yours but you must also get a Habitation Certificate to legally live in it.

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Hi Abi Apart from POA you have also pointed out about TAPU and Habitataion Certificate. I am aware of TAPU but would like to know how long it will take take to get it when I am there in Turkey. I am thinking that my solicitor will see to it before funds are transferred to the developers.I have not heard about Habitation Certificate until you mentioned it. Perhaps you can tell us more on this as well as TAPU. I am just trying to be very cautious in my approch to buying this villa.Kind regardsKamal

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A Habitation Certificate will only be issued if the property has been inspected by the council and that all taxes and insurances have been paid by the builder. If all has been paid and the council confirm that the property conforms you should get a HC as the Tapu will have the "Kat Mulkiyeti" box ticked.A HC means that the property is legal for habitation and you will therefore be able to get connected to the main services such as gas, electric, water and sewage and have all meters in your name. Until the Kat Mulkiyeti box has been ticked, it is my understanding that you will be paying for essential services at the "builders rate" which is a lot higher in some cases than you will pay when everything is in your name.I have to say I am rather worried about the lawyer you are using. If your lawyer was anyway half decent he would have taken you through the buying process and explained each step of the way as it is all important stuff to know and that is what you are paying him for. I suspect, though maybe wrong, that you are using a lawyer recommended by the company you are buying from, and from various things I have read they never have your interest at heart and should never be used.As I am not a lawyer if anyone spots a mistake that I have made in this post, please correct me. Also if I have missed someout can you please add. :)

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