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[kevi]

Can anybody help?
We are in the process of applying for a kimlik. However, there is problems with the paperwork i.e Nufus office in Anatalya are asking for documentation showing ( Nufus / Censor ) for family back in U.K.
We have been living here for six years, with no property in U.K. and the consulate in Antalya agree that this paper does not exist. Has anyone experienced this before?
Can someone please tell us what the medical entails. having gone to the Devlet ( goverment ) hospital they do not understand when we say it is for Kimlik. Perhaps we should be asking for something else.
thanks.
Kevi

[Abi]

Hi Kevi and welcome to our forum. Are you both British as the rules are slightly different if you are?. However, I hope either Fil who is married to a Turk or Scoobydoo who isn't and who are applying for citizenship will be about at some point and will be able to help you.

[sunny]

When I applied back in 2006 I was not asked for information about family back in the UK.

I honestly can't remember the medical so I'm afraid I can't help you there.

[Cukurbagli]

You should probably ask for a medical to support your "Vatandaşlık Başvurusu" (citizenship application). The kimlik is just the ID card.

[Abi]

Just bringing this to the top again in case anyone missed this posting

[Fil]

I am afraid I don't understand what is being asked for, maybe there is a misunderstanding with the nüfus dairesi, or maybe the status is different, I am married to a Turk. Kevi, did you have a Turkish person with very good English helping you, or were you doing it yourselves?

Edited by Fil, 12 June 2010 - 03:33 PM.

[kevi]

You should probably ask for a medical to support your "Vatandaşlık Başvurusu" (citizenship application). The kimlik is just the ID card.

Hi Cukurbagli
Thanks for that info, i wondered why we having strange looks at the Devlet hospital when we asked for a medical for the Kimlik. Will give it another go soon.
kevi

I am afraid I don't understand what is being asked for, maybe there is a misunderstanding with the nüfus dairesi, or maybe the status is different, I am married to a Turk. Kevi, did you have a Turkish person with very good English helping you, or were you doing it yourselves?

Hi Fil, thanks for reply. We had a friend with good English who explained we needed a statement of persons living or maybe dependant with us in U.K. We have no property in U.K. and no dependants with us. We contacted the consulate in Antalya and they agreed there is no such form. Nufus are still demanding this info. ( perhaps law has changed )
We have been to Antalya three times now, with visits to consulate for stamps etc. on each visit, due to the fact every time we go to Nufus they think of something else they need. We have followed the criteria stated on their forms and have got extra such as bank/pension statements. We have lived in Turkey for seven years, we must be on their system for checks.
Do you know if the law re. citizenship has changed?
All the best
Kevi

[Fil]

When I applied they gave us the wrong form initially, which was the one for people applying due to long-term residence, not marriage. I have been trying to find it, but I must have thrown it away. You must have a copy of the application form. On the back there is a list of requirements, I remember stuff like evidence of completing a course in Turkish and medical cert. What is the requirement that asks for details of family from UK? What is the wording in Turkish?
After 20 years of dealing with officialdom here, there always seems to be a way around obstacles, but only Turkish people together can work out the way round. I can undesrstand just about everything they are saying, but it always sounds like the situation is impossible, but after the conversation the Turkish person with me says we just need to do this, this and this and it will be OK. For these kinds of thing my wife or HoD always have to help me. After a lot of talk, and sometimes chats with the boss of the office, things get worked out, but I am never sure quite how. Any way, I am not through my process yet, we managed to submit the application 4 months ago, various checks have been made and now we are waiting for the interview with the nüfus dairesi.

[sunny]

[[waiting for the interview with the nüfus dairesi. ]]

Which interview is this? The only interview I had , other than one with police to check information, was with the Vali, Eminiyet Mudur and about 5 other people, a sort of language test.
I only got called to the nufus diaresi right at the end, to pick up my kimlik.

[Fil]

This might be one of the differences in the new procedure, sunny, but I am not sure. First you apply to the nufus dairesi, then the application goes to the emniyet who investigate current and previous residence, then the file is returned to the nufus dairesi (the stage I have reached) who arrange the interview. If the interview is positive the file goes to Ankara for the central authorities to investigate, and if they approve than the process is over.

[sunny]

Ah, I see. Good luck.

[Agamemnon]

At the moment trying for citizenship, its quite an involved and long winded process, the amount of paperwork is piling up, the latest thing now is that Izmir Vali insist that all documents from the U.K, ( BİRTH & MARRİAGE CERTS) are apostilled (wtf????????????)

I know some of the other local authorities (down South) are a lot more flexible!

[sunny]

[[......the latest thing now is that Izmir Vali insist that all documents from the U.K, ( BİRTH & MARRİAGE CERTS) are apostilled]]

Does that have to be done in the UK or can it be done at a consulate in T?

I looked on a web site at a UK company that does that type of thing and their fee was £141!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!