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[Hermias]

Help, I am really concerned. Although the site looks great, I have heard that so many bad things about the management company at Turquoise. They are being very restrictive with their security, and seem to make up their own rules as they go along. Booking apartments out without telling the owners etc..Hey, we all want our properties to be secure, but I also own a property on another development and have heard of no problems there and they do not go out of their way to restrict access to the site. I just do not believe the reasons they give and excuses for all the problems I have heard about.
The next thing they are to implement is vetting the guests. They will make it difficult for any guest to get on site who has not booked through the managements booking system. This will effect Royal Heights owners too.
I bought in Turkey because I wanted to get away from all the rules and regulations in the UK. Gone from the pot into the frying pan me thinks!

[Abi]

Can you get rid of that managment company and replace it as surely they should be working for you and your interests.

If you don't rent out your apartment I would suggest you change the door locks so that they can't gain access.

[Boatless]

I am not sure, but I think it is a condition that the management company have to have a set of keys?

They are allegedly losing lots of money, so the future looks rather bleak. A new management and maintenance company may ned to be found.

[Hermias]

I did not know that they are losing money. I have heard that they are making money on the side by renting out properties without the owners knowing. This is not just here-say, but property owners who have proof of this have told this so. This is one of the reasons I am really worried. This does not seem to be happening with any other site management company.
The management company do not have any legal right to hold keys unless there is a key holding contract in place, arranged by the owner of the property. I do not have a contract with them, but they are intimidating not only business owners wanting access to the site, but also owners by lying about local laws and making contracts that are in the interest of themselves rather than everyone.
I am all for share and share alike, but I am one who would like to see a different company in place.

[Frances]

Hermias, I have not looked at this forum for some time. As a member of the Turquoise Owners Club I think that we have worked very hard with the management company over the past couple of months to improve the site. I don't think you are a member of the Club, and we could probably answer many of your questions and be helpful as well! Since the new site manager started, things have definitely improved. By the way you don't have to give the management company your key, they don't have mine.

[Hermias]

Thanks everyone.
Frances, I am glad to hear that changes are being made.
Fingers crossed.
All I have to do now is sort out the damp!

[ChrisWheatley]

Chris here from Villa Turizm.

Please provide actual evidence of us renting properties without the owners knowledge. You say there is proof but not one person has produced this evidence!

I have been accused of personally renting out properties without the owners knowledge and can say with hand on heart this is not true just vicious rumour and gossip spoken by people with nothing better to do.

[Frances]

Many owners are now feeling good about Turquoise, and Turquoise Owners Club are working hard with Vila Turizm. Villa Turizm have confirmed they are not going to stop delivery men or workmen from visiting your property. I would strongly urge anyone with property to join the owners club. After our telephone call with Artev 2 days ago we can probably help you resolve damp issues too. Let's stop being negative, and work through the problems together, we have come a long way. Contact me at frances_lawrence@hotmail.com

[Abi]

Well that can only be good news Frances, I hope things continue going in the right direction for you all.

[Hermias]

The writing has always been on the wall.
All owners have had their patience tried to the limit.
Enough is enough.

It is with regret that the Turquoise Supervisory Committee are having to write to you. In recent weeks it has become apparent that Villa Turizm are extensively renting out home owners' properties without their knowledge or providing home owners with rental income.

1. Home owners have been visiting their properties to find unauthorized renters occupying their properties or finding a dirty and used property with their personal belongings either stolen or broken. This is all without their knowledge.

2. In two instances Villa Turizm did not have a rental contract with a home owner. In the absence of keys, Villa Turizm broke into the properties, changed the locks and rented the property.

3.Ex-employees of Villa Turizm have extensive knowledge of properties that have been rented by Villa Turizm, without the home owners' consent.

4.This is also occurring on Royal Heights
The committee considers these alleged acts to be illegal and fraudulent.
The committee are now contacting individual home owners to prepare statements for presentation to the public prosecutor.
The evidence of Villa Turizm's alleged fraud is now so extensive and widely known by home owners, that it will not be possible for either Artev or Villa Turizm to cover up or explain these alleged illegal actions away.

Artev are responsible for appointing Villa Turizm, who are committing these alleged unprofessional, corrupt and immoral acts. It is therefore Artev who should be leading the resolution of this matter.
The committee requests that you attend a meeting in London with committee members, at your earliest convenience, to urgently discuss this matter. The committee strongly advises you not to ignore this request, as it will only deepen the anger of home owners.
In discussion with home owners the committee will be considering the following:
1. Organising a meeting of home owners in the UK in preparation for calling an extra ordinary general meeting. 2. Appointing Millennium Public Relations, a travel specialist public relations company in order to prepare articles for circulation to the UK national and travel press.

So Villa Turizm, pack your bags.

[Abi]

Hermias Thank you for your latest post though it isn't good news for you or people who own these properties at least it is now in the open.

Apart from Turquoise and Royal Heights I have noticed on other forums that is is alleged that the same thing is happening at Flamingo Country Club.

The bad news is that if the Tapu is not in your name the builder still own the property and as such can let it out to whoever and therefore it would not be considered a crime. Hopefully, you do hold a Tapu in your name in law then you can do something about it.

[Sagalassos]

2. In two instances Villa Turizm did not have a rental contract with a home owner. In the absence of keys, Villa Turizm broke into the properties, changed the locks and rented the property.

In fact it is a crime. It is best way to change the locks when you get the keys.

The bad news is that if the Tapu is not in your name the builder still own the property and as such can let it out to whoever and therefore it would not be considered a crime. Hopefully, you do hold a Tapu in your name in law then you can do something about it.

You can always do something if you can prove the fact. It is obviously a crime if you have got the keys from the builder. After that you are a possessor and you have some rights and you do not have to be legal owner.
The builder cannot rent the house and cannot enter without your permission.

For instance, a tenant is also a possessor and the owner cannot rent the house to someone else when the tenant has gone to holiday. And he cannot enter the house.

Edited by Sagalassos, 26 August 2010 - 08:34 PM.

[Boatless]

The writing has always been on the wall.
All owners have had their patience tried to the limit.
Enough is enough.

It is with regret that the Turquoise Supervisory Committee are having to write to you. In recent weeks it has become apparent that Villa Turizm are extensively renting out home owners' properties without their knowledge or providing home owners with rental income.

1. Home owners have been visiting their properties to find unauthorized renters occupying their properties or finding a dirty and used property with their personal belongings either stolen or broken. This is all without their knowledge.

2. In two instances Villa Turizm did not have a rental contract with a home owner. In the absence of keys, Villa Turizm broke into the properties, changed the locks and rented the property.

3.Ex-employees of Villa Turizm have extensive knowledge of properties that have been rented by Villa Turizm, without the home owners' consent.

4.This is also occurring on Royal Heights
The committee considers these alleged acts to be illegal and fraudulent.
The committee are now contacting individual home owners to prepare statements for presentation to the public prosecutor.
The evidence of Villa Turizm's alleged fraud is now so extensive and widely known by home owners, that it will not be possible for either Artev or Villa Turizm to cover up or explain these alleged illegal actions away.

Artev are responsible for appointing Villa Turizm, who are committing these alleged unprofessional, corrupt and immoral acts. It is therefore Artev who should be leading the resolution of this matter.
The committee requests that you attend a meeting in London with committee members, at your earliest convenience, to urgently discuss this matter. The committee strongly advises you not to ignore this request, as it will only deepen the anger of home owners.
In discussion with home owners the committee will be considering the following:
1. Organising a meeting of home owners in the UK in preparation for calling an extra ordinary general meeting. 2. Appointing Millennium Public Relations, a travel specialist public relations company in order to prepare articles for circulation to the UK national and travel press.

So Villa Turizm, pack your bags.

I think VT are dreadful, dishonest, and deceitful. They should not be in business. They are threatening and bullying Frances because she is telling the truth and exposing them for what they are.

[Abi]

I'm very sorry to hear that Boatless as it's not right but have heard that sort if thing being done on other sites. The important thing is that ALL the owners of properties on this site must band togeather and present a solid front.