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Moving abroad before army
Hi my fiancée and I have been together for 4 years. He's turkish and I'm British and he's coming 21 years of age.
He has delayed the army for a few years due to his mums health and is due to go in, in 2017.
We're quite happy to do this however, several of his family members have said if I got a lawyer on the English side he will have a chance to come into the country before he does his army service and we would be able to buy out of it after 3 years...
Does anyone know the possibility or risks of this? Before we pay out for help and end up with nothing. This would be so much better for us if possible as my father is ill and it would be a chance to get to know each other before he passes and also be able to start a family.
If not we will continue on with our original plan.
‘White Turks’ who want to move to İzmir should think again
Spring is turning to summer; you wake up early in the morning with that look of “wanderlust,” “la vie ailleurs,” or, in plainer terms “I want the get the hell out of dodge.”
Whether you are in the corporate rat race in Istanbul or in the bureaucratic greyness of Ankara, you dream of a greener life, where your garden grows and care-free friends sit at cafes after work. Then you read the now-viral article, “35 reasons to move to İzmir.” The 35 reasons (a wink to the city’s number plate number) is heartily adopted by Ertuğrul Özkök, Turkey’s greatest trend-setter for the last three decades, who says he will take İzmir, his hometown, any day. You have read “second career” success stories where high-flying executives find happiness in vineyards. And if you are a single girl, maybe, just maybe, you will meet the ultimate “Ege man” – suave, civilized, and easy-going who’ll sweep you off to the Alaçatı sunset. And surely, you can easily find professional and personal bliss in a city that would welcome accomplished and intelligent you…
Erospolis, with the arrogance of someone who has moved from the capital to İzmir, shares some tips with you before you set off on your Aegean dream.
1.A house, or even a sea-view flat, in the Aegean is no longer cheap – and the real estate prices are likely to go up. So, as far as rentals go, “half the cost of Istanbul” is a dream. “Less than Ankara prices” are laughable.
2.Be careful of what you wish for when you wish for a “slower life.” In this laid-back Aegean city, time wins over money every time. In everyday terms, it means it is you who will run after builders, plumbers and other service providers who do not have the habit of calling back. Getting things done fast is not a virtue here: İzmir municipalities and businesses race to become “slow food” or “slow life” – no pun intended.
3.You, the hierarchical-minded Ankaran or competitive Istanbulite, will not be welcomed with open arms. The İzmirian circles are hard to integrate into – after all, they have known each other for three generations. Ask İzmirians how they know each other, and it is not unlikely that the reply will be “well, our grandfathers were school chums.”
4.You cannot criticize anything that is İzmirian. Once you are here, you are supposed to adore everything, from crooked sidewalks to bad service. The İzmirians are rather like the European Union with candidates: “It is you who is trying to integrate into İzmir, not the other way around.” God help you if you say or hint at anything that indicates that İzmir is not paradise on earth and the only place an intelligent person would live in.
5.If you are not into a sea sport, learn it immediately. It is the best way to integrate. I will talk about this more as summer progresses. An intelligent Ankaran couple I know took sailing lessons together and made more friends than they did at work.
6.Your past experience and accomplishments in another city – be it Paris, Brussels, London or New York will not help you. Dropping international names won’t work either. İzmir has its own celebrity system which does not include politicians, high civil servants or scientists.
7.If you are a woman, accept the fact that all the women you meet will be prettier and better-pampered than you. The myth that all women of İzmir are beautiful is not an urban legend. Those who were born without the pretty genes got their nose jobs and liposuctions as a high-school graduation gift. While you were slaving away in an office, the İzmir girls spent hours at the gym, pilates and yoga; lightened their hair and darkened their eyebrows. Result: They are prettier than you at the age of 30.
8.“I may not be as pretty but I am intelligent and accomplished” does not work. İzmir’s accomplishment system is different than the city you come from. The fact that you have made million-dollar deals and sat with the prime minister is no conversation stopper. Your İzmirian friends will politely nod and go back to their topic of the best boat for sailing. Repeated references to anything work-related will just make you annoying, not interesting.
9.If you have arrived as a single woman on the look-out for coupledom, the chances are slim. Nearly all Ege boys have married in their 20s – to the girl next door at a Çeşme holiday resort or their classmate at university. Although you see large all-male or all-female groups in the sunny verandas, İzmir is essentially a couple’s town. The chances of you meeting a man “between marriages” are slim because “the whole village” tries to get him remarried with someone they know. My husband, who married me, an Ankara girl, was chided by one of his friends: “If we knew you wanted to re-marry, we would have introduced you to someone who is from here.”
10.İzmirian women can compete with Recep Tayyip Erdoğan in the firm belief that motherhood is the most sacred of all jobs. Although they have outsourced most everything about their kids, their child is their main social activity and their main (often only) topic of conversation. Quickly learn about schools and other child-relevant topics and above all, do not even think about criticizing anything. The second topic for males and females is healthy-living, what to eat, what not to eat, yoga vs pilates. Come to terms with the fact that a little knowledge may be dangerous, but it is even more dangerous to argue with a self-styled expert who believes that Aegean herbs gives them eternal youth.
The above list is not one that aims to stop you. On the contrary, if your desire to move to the Aegean is not diminished, do come along. To be forewarned is to be forearmed.
Source: Hurriyet Daily News
Question about Military Law
Fantastic site and wisdom in the postings. It is great to have found and this problem i feel crosses many more ages than just those under 29. I have a question about military service, etc. in the Turkish army. If someone has been in the military for years, I believe as a career, is older, as in 55 years old; is it feasible or possible or any type of truth to the fact, that if they have violated some military rule (i don't know what else to call it other than a rule) - is it possible that this person could be thrown into jail and maybe in jail for life. And I believe they were only guilty of talking to someone on social media when they were in a military camp. How serious would the breaking of this rule be with the Turkish army, or maybe it is not even a problem at all. I am not accustomed to the army in Turkey and am more familiar with USA and Canadian military where such things would not happen. However, neither one of the North American countries has a forced military service either. Another question related to the previous concern. If someone did have to deal with such an issue, would they be required to hire a lawyer to help them in such an action. Thank you to any and all for assistance on this.
Can My Boyfirend Not Go To Army?
I am trying to find a way so that my boyfriend doesn't have to go to the army. He is 29yrs and he has not finished university but has gone to several years of university, but just keeps changing the school and not finishing? I don't understand the schooling process here but I have heard that if he is in university he can delay going tot he army.He tells me that he doesn't want to go but MUST. That at 29yrs there are no more delays even if you didn't finish university. He said the only way he can pay to get out is if he leaves the country for 2yrs.Is it possible for him to continue at university and delay going to the army after 29yrs? Is it possible for him to pay his way out w/o having to leave the country? Is there anything he can possibly do to delay or avoid going into the army?Please, someone help us!!
dual turkish- british citizen- questions about becoming a reserve officer (yedek subay) ??
I am a dual turkish- british citizen and am thinking about completing my military service as a reserve officer, i have a BA degree in political science from a british university and my turkish is ok. i am also a qualified english teacher with 3 years teaching experience. does anyone have any information about being selected as a reserve officer, the training, the treatment, specific job in army according to skills and qualifications? any information would be useful. thanks
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