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[Abi]

Vic 801 recently posted asking about using Solar panels for electricity and thought this article may be of interest. I've noticed that there is a big drive in the UK recently to get people to install these panels.

It's always surprised me since living here that Turkey aren't doing the same thing and was disappointed to read the article below because it doesn't look like Turkey is very interested, which is a great pity as Turkey should really be promoting this.

Tunç Korun is the second generation boss of Form Group (Form Şirketler Grubu), which has specialized in productive use of energy since 1965.

His group created a cooling system for hotels using seawater. He also focuses on heating homes using a system installed underground and, more recently, producing solar powered electricity.

Korun has dedicated much of his energy to produce his own electricity by installing solar panels of 2 kwh to the roof of his own house. He is very right to do so in a country like Turkey where there is plenty of sunshine. However, the data he submits demonstrates how far behind Turkey is in this field.......

http://www.hurriyetd...ergy-2011-11-29

[Vic801]

Thank you, Abi. An interesting article though disappointing to know that Turkey is not making more out of its solar energy potential.

[Meral]

Yes, extremely interesting. In fact, many great men of the past have discovered ways to tap into energy sources that should be available to all of us, but "dark political forces" have managed to suppress their development, and indeed even knowledge about them. Just google "free energy"...............

Actually, here's a good place to start : http://www.wanttoknow.info/freeenergy ........but don't stop there !

Every time I think about it, I could just cry when I realise the world might never have needed nuclear energy !

[nitrox]

I heard a couple of years ago after asking the same thing about solar power. I was told it is very hard to get permission to have solar electric because having so many days of sunshine, too much revenue from taxes would be lost.

[sunny]

I didn't realise that you needed permission to make electricity with solar energy nitrox.

We just have the solar panels to heat our water, which is fantastic.

[Meral]

nitrox, on 01 February 2012 - 09:16 PM, said:

I heard a couple of years ago after asking the same thing about solar power. I was told it is very hard to get permission to have solar electric because having so many days of sunshine, too much revenue from taxes would be lost.

It's those "dark political forces" at work Nitrox. Energy companies want to keep a monopoly, and that's why past discoveries & inventions have been corked ---- ones that would have given us cheaper & safer energy (the electric car being one of them). Look what they did to Nikola Tesla !

[nitrox]

You don't need permission for hot water but I believe you are not allowed solar or wind power electricity. I think it's because green doesn't sound the same as yesil so I don't think it applies.

[sunny]

Ah, yes, I did hear, a few years ago, about someone needing permission to put up a windmill with an attached generator (or whatever) to power .........., I've forgotten what! I can't remember whether it was given or not.

[Abi]

Interesting article in Today Zaman a couple of days ago,

http://www.todayszam...-in-turkey.html

[nitrox]

That was an interesting article but it sounds like it is for a large producer and not for you and I to have put on our roof.

[Vic801]

Unfortunately it looks as if they will produce energy to sell to the MEDAS who will just sell it to us in the normal way. I don't suppose we will be able to do the same (sell to the MEDAS)!

[Abi]

Yes your right Nitrox it just for the big guys, but at least it's a step forward. I'm hoping that as Europe are promoting the use of solar power for electricity by the home owner that Turkey would do that as well, hopefully sooner rather than later as I'm sure the average Turk would be keen if the incentive were right to invest

[nitrox]

If they introduced solar panels to the general public in Turkey. Demand would out strip supply for many years.

[sunny]

A lot of people use solar panels to heat their water but yes, if the photovoltaic system was available I think there would be a lot of people who would want them, in spite of the cost.

[Yellowcatt]

sunny, on 06 February 2012 - 10:58 AM, said:

A lot of people use solar panels to heat their water but yes, if the photovoltaic system was available I think there would be a lot of people who would want them, in spite of the cost.

I did not know of the restrictions on using photovoltaics in Turkey, I hope it soon becomes easier to have them installed.
As you say a lot of people would want to have them given how unreliable the mains power can be, even if it was only to provide lighting.
What it needs is for the photovoltaic cells to be made in Turkey, that would create jobs and benefit everyone here , I am sure that the demand would be high enough to quickly bring down the unit cost of the photovoltaic arrays.

[questingbeast]

fine! tax free energy but who can be blamed for wanting to use it when the land line electricity is of such poor and unreliable quality. We have a village house and the likelyhood if us getting electricity brought up the 2Km from our nearest village is extremely low. Although before the recent elections the Muçtar (?) told us that we would have electricity soon. Down on the coast this winter we had a personal best from the electricity suppliers of 11 cuts in one day. And yes photovoltaic arrays are expensive but not as bad as privately bringing up the electricity which of course the neighbours will all hook up on as soon as it passes their house without a thought of a financial contribution to the people who actually made their electricity available.

So although expensive it may be, for us, electricity will have to come from the sun.

[sunny]

Perhaps you should contact the firm that supplies them in Turkey QB to see what they have to say about permission and cost and then it would be good if you could report back to us as I'm sure a number of people would be interested.

[Fil]

I once had a chat with someone who knew about these things some five years ago (so may not be true at all or figures may not be accurate). He said that to do the generate your own electricity from the sun thing was perfectly viable (if legal) but to do it properly (he was German, so I imagine that would mean really properly), it would take a very large area of solar panels, far more than would fit on a roof, it would take quite a large garden. And then you would need quite a sophisticated storage system for electricity generated, because we generall need electricity when it is dark (no sun). But if you did the work yourself, he said, you could probably be self-sufficient for about 100000 Euros!

[sunny]

It certainly won't be cheap. I think that the storage problem is gradually getting better as more work is done on producing more efficient batteries.

[Abi]

A lot of countries are giving grants or interest free loans to encourage people to install solar power for electricity.

There is a lot of research going on looking for alternatives to the panels. In America they are already producing solar tiles for the roof which look like regular tiles. At the moment they don't produce the same amount of power that a panels do but work is still going on with that. Also they are working on paint that you can spray on your house, thin plastic sheeting material, window glass etc.

I think in the next few years we will see a lot of different alternatives available to panels.